IO91461@MAINE.BITNET (Tom Nezwek) (02/07/91)
Once again, the latest hd'able game's list from Maine:
(I would like to see more 2500/20 & 2500/30 support for this list)
Game HD Compatable 2500/20 2500/30 3000
------ --------------- ------- ------- ----
A10 Tank Killer Yes ? ? Yes
Alien Syndrome Yes ? ? Yes
Atomic Robokid No ? ? Yes
Aunt Arctic Adventure No ? ? No
Bandit Kings of Ancient Chn Yes ? ? Yes
Batman: The Movie No ? ? Yes 1
Battle Chess YES YES YES YES
Battle Hawks 1942 Yes ? ? ?
Battle Squadron NO YES ? No
Beyond Dark Castle No ? ? Yes
Black Magic No ? ? No
Blood Money No ? ? Yes 2
Breach Yes ? ? ?
Breach 2 Yes ? ? ?
Captain Blood No ? ? No
Chamber Of Sci-Mutant Priest No ? ? No
Champions of Krynn Yes M ? ? Yes
Chinese Chess Yes ? ? ?
Colony Yes ? ? ?
Crystal Quest Yes a ? ? ?
Dark Century No ? ? No
Drakkhen No nd ? ? NO
Dragon Force Yes ? ? ?
Dragon's Lair II (Escape) Yes ? ? No
Dungeon Master Yes(patch on abcfd) ? ? Yes
Earl Weaver Baseball No ? ? ?
Empire 2.1 (Gray,Wright) Yes ? Yes Yes
F-18 Interceptor Yes cw ? Yes Yes
Falcon 1.1 YES YES YES YES4
FalconMission (from floppy) n/a ? ? Yes 5
FalconMission (run on HD) Yes ? ? Yes 6
Fire Brigade YES YES YES YES
Flight Simulator Yes ? ? Yes
Footman NO YES ? YES 7
Future Wars Yes ? ? ?
Gauntlet II NO YES ? YES 8
GravityWars 2.0 YES YES YES YES
Gunship Yes ? ? No 9
Hardball II Yes ? ? ?
Heart of Dragon Yes ? ? Yes
Hybris NO YES NO NO
Indianapolis 500 Yes ? ?
Infocom text Adv. Yes ? ? Yes
Interceptor Yes (needs patch)? ? ?
International Soccer NO NO NO NO
Interstel Empire 1.03 Yes ? Yes ?
Interstel Empire 2.05 Yes M ? ? ?
Ishido Yes ? ? Yes
It came from the Desert YES YES ? No
Jetsons Yes Yes ? ?
Keef The Thief Yes a ? ? ?
Leader Board Golf Yes Yes ? ?
Leisure Suit Larry III0 Yes ? ? Yes 10
Leonardo No ? ? Yes
Lurking Horror Yes ? ? ?
M1 Tank Platoon Yes ? ? Yes
Matrix Marauders No ? ? No
Manic Mansion Yes ? ? No
Marble Madness No ? ? No
Mean 18 YES ? ? ?
Might & Magic II Yes ? ? Yes
Mindwalker YES YES YES YES
Nethack 3.09 YES YES YES YES
Nuclear War (keydisk) Yes ? ? Yes
Oil Empirium Yes no no no
Pacmania No ? ? No 11
Paperboy No ? ? Yes
Pipe Dream Yes a ? ? ?
Pirates Yes ? ? Yes
Planet of Lust NO ? ? ?
Pocoman Yes ? ? Yes
Populous NO YES NO NO
Ports of Call Yes Yes ? Yes
Prospector Yes ? ? Yes 12
Red Storm Rising Yes ? ? Yes
Rick Dangerous No ? ? ?
Rick Dangerous II No ? ? Yes
Risk No ? ? Yes
Roger Rabbit Yes Yes ? ?
Rogue Yes ? ? ?
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms YES YES YES YES
Shadow Of The Beast No ? ? No 13
Shadow Of The Beast II No ? ? Yes
Shanghai YES YES YES YES
Sideshow (ACTIONWARE) YES YES ? ?
Sidewinder Yes ? No Yes
SimCity 1.0 Yes (Keydisk) ? No Yes
SimCity 1.1 ? ? ? Yes
SimCity 1.2 Yes Yes Yes Yes
Space Ace No ? ? Yes
Space Harrier No ? ? Yes
Speedball No ? ? NO
Spellbreaker (1.0?) Yes ? Yes ?
Spy Vs. Spy Yes a ? ? ?
Star Flight Yes a ? ? ?
StarGlider 2 NO YES YES ?
Stellar Crusade YES YES YES YES
SuperGridRunner Yes (needs patch)? ? ?
Sword of Aragon YES YES YES YES
Sword Of Sodan No ? ? Yes
Targis Yes ? ? ?
The Duel: Testdrive II YES YES ? YES 3
Their Finest hour (bat Brit)Yes ? ? ?
Three Stooges Yes ? ? No
Torch 2081 ? ? ? Yes
TV Sports Basketball Yes ? ? ?
Universal Military Simltr YES YES YES YES
Waterloo YES YES YES YES
Where in the Wrld is C S Yes ? ? ?
Wings Yes ? ? d cache
Zak McKrakin and Alien Mind Yes ? ? ?
Zany Golf Yes Yes ? Yes
Zork Zero Yes ? ? Yes
668 Attack Sub Yes ? ? ?
****** FOOTNOTES ********
a means you must make assignments to make it hdable.
- Another hint is to try turning the data & instruction caches on/off
with cpu.
1. Runs fine on 3000, but there are intermittent graphics glitches where
floors and wall seem to disappear or smear.
2. Plays fine on 3000. However all the title pages and intro screens with
"tiles" the graphics are completely messed up. This does not affect game
play at all.
3. Game play is fine on 3000 but the graphics glitch throughout the game. It
is still playable, but annoying.
4. On 3000 game won't even load from floppy. From HD under 2.0 the game hangs
when you try to "Takeoff" from Armament screen. Under 1.3 once you are
in the cockpit the keyboard is hung/frozen.
5. Runs fine on 3000 from floppy only if you boot under 1.3. Won't run with 2.0
6. If run from HD on 3000: under 2.0 the game seems to play fine but if you
hit <esc> to get menus the game crashes. Under 1.3 once in the cockpit
the keyboard is hung/frozen.
7. Game runs fine on 3000 if you are on speed. In other words, the game runs,
but it is VERY VERY fast and nearly impossible to play at this speed.
8. Freezes on title screen under 2.0. Under 1.3, if it loads (sometimes it
does, sometimes not) it plays fine.
9. Doesn't run on 3000. But just a note that if you are running it on another
machine from hard disk you must use the original floppy as a key disk.
10. Plays fine under 2.0 and 1.3 but at accelerated speed on 3000. This doesn't
hinder play for this game.
11. Game runs on 3000 but with massive graphic glitches on the screen at all
times. Not really playable, but it runs.
12. Seems to run fine on 3000. It seems to have minor glitches undere 2.0 like
the sound sometimes disappears.
13. Game seems to load fine on 3000 but as soon as you attempt to move the game
hangs and crashes.
14. One patch is to change DF0: to something else, like F18: & GRD:.
==============================================================================
PD Games HD 2500/20 2500/30 3000
--------- --- --------- -------- -----
Tetrix Yes YES ? ?
Omega Yes ? ? ?
Battletech Yes ? ? ?
Amoeba Invaders Yes YES ? ?
Mechforce (PD) 3.71 Yes ? Yes ?
Startrek (PD) Yes ? Yes ?
Asteroids (PD) Yes ? Yes ?
Tetris (PD, Andy Hook) Yes Yes Yes ?
Missile Command (PD) Yes ? No ?
******************* Important Information ************************
If you know a specific way to copy a Game to HD
a brief explanation 'how to' would be welcome... (like nib2.0)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Also When You add to the list It would be nice if you used this format
Game HD 2500/20 2500/30 3000
-------------- ---- ------- ------- ----
Sim City 1.0 No Yes No No
Because it takes a long time to edit everyones output to match
And please specify if the game still needs a floppy key disk...
-Take it Easy
-Tom Nezwek
cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) (02/12/91)
IO91461@MAINE.BITNET (Tom Nezwek) writes: } } Game HD Compatable 2500/20 2500/30 3000 } ------ --------------- ------- ------- ---- } Marble Madness No ? ? No I have Marble Madness installed on my HD and it kind-of works fine. I believe that some old version of Maurauder II claimed it would 'deprotect' some games, MM included and I guess they did. My original is squirreled away and not long ago I took my MII-made copy of the disk and simple did a copy df0: dh0:games/marblemadness all and after ignoring the error that gets reported [there is some file on the disk that generated an error when I did the copy], I just clicked on the Marble Icon and it worked! No assigns, no nothing. On the other hand, I say "almost": the game gets sick after you play a while. There are various death-symptoms [screen just locks up. Or it stops displaying the marble [you know it is still there, because you can hear the sound effects if you run it, blind, off of an edge]. /Bernie\
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (02/13/91)
I've found my copy of MM needs the 1.1 kickstart to run. Is there an upgrade, and if so is it too late to do so? -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
IO91461@MAINE.BITNET (Tom Nezwek) (02/22/91)
Here is the latest HD'able games list from maine..
(Yes, I'm pretty steamed over Psygnosis' anti-hd Lemmings! game too!)
(I'd like to see more 2500 question marks go away)
Game HD Compatable 2500/20 2500/30 3000
------ --------------- ------- ------- ----
A10 Tank Killer Yes ? ? Yes
Alien Syndrome Yes ? ? Yes
Atomic Robokid No ? ? Yes
Aunt Arctic Adventure No ? ? No
Bandit Kings of Ancient Chn Yes ? ? Yes
Bard's Tale II Yes a ? ? ?
Batman: The Movie No ? ? Yes 1
Battle Chess YES YES YES YES
Battle Hawks 1942 Yes ? ? ?
Battle Squadron NO YES ? No
Beyond Dark Castle No ? ? Yes
Black Magic No ? ? No
Blood Money No Yes ? Yes 2
Breach Yes ? ? ?
Breach 2 Yes ? ? ?
Captain Blood No ? ? No
Chamber Of Sci-Mutant Priest No ? ? No
Champions of Krynn Yes M ? ? Yes
Chinese Chess Yes ? ? ?
Colony Yes ? ? ?
Crystal Quest Yes a ? ? ?
Dark Century No ? ? No
Drakkhen No nd ? ? NO
Dragon Force Yes ? ? ?
Dragon's Lair II (Escape) Yes Yes ? No
Dungeon Master Yes(patch on abcfd) ? ? Yes
Earl Weaver Baseball No ? ? ?
Empire 2.1 (Gray,Wright) Yes ? Yes Yes
F-18 Interceptor Yes cw ? Yes Yes
Falcon 1.1 YES YES YES YES4
FalconMission (from floppy) n/a ? ? Yes 5
FalconMission (run on HD) Yes ? ? Yes 6
Fire Brigade YES YES YES YES
Flight Simulator Yes ? ? Yes
Footman NO YES ? YES 7
Future Wars Yes ? ? ?
Gauntlet II NO YES ? YES 8
GravityWars 2.0 YES YES YES YES
Gunship Yes ? ? No 9
Hardball II Yes ? ? ?
Heart of Dragon Yes ? ? Yes
Hybris NO YES NO NO
Indianapolis 500 Yes ? ?
Infocom text Adv. Yes ? ? Yes
Interceptor Yes (needs patch)? ? ?
International Soccer NO NO NO NO
Interstel Empire 1.03 Yes ? Yes ?
Interstel Empire 2.05 Yes M ? Yes ?
Ishido Yes ? ? Yes
It came from the Desert YES YES ? No
Jetsons Yes Yes ? ?
Keef The Thief Yes a ? ? ?
Leader Board Golf Yes Yes ? ?
Leisure Suit Larry III Yes ? ? Yes 10
Lemmings! (Psygnosis rips us HD owners off again!) Yes Yes
Leonardo No ? ? Yes
Lurking Horror Yes ? ? ?
M1 Tank Platoon Yes ? ? Yes
Matrix Marauders No ? ? No
Manic Mansion Yes ? ? No
Marble Madness Yes a ? ? No
Mean 18 YES ? ? ?
Might & Magic II Yes ? ? Yes
Mindwalker YES YES YES YES
Nethack 3.09 YES YES YES YES
Nuclear War (keydisk) Yes ? Yes Yes
Oil Empirium Yes no no no
Pacmania No ? ? No 11
Paperboy No ? ? Yes
Pipe Dream Yes a ? ? ?
Pirates Yes ? ? Yes
Planet of Lust NO ? ? ?
Pocoman Yes ? ? Yes
Populous NO YES NO NO
Ports of Call Yes Yes ? Yes
Prospector Yes ? ? Yes 12
Red Storm Rising Yes ? ? Yes
Rick Dangerous No ? ? ?
Rick Dangerous II No ? ? Yes
Risk No ? Yes Yes
Roger Rabbit Yes Yes ? ?
Rogue Yes ? ? ?
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms YES YES YES YES
Shadow Of The Beast No ? ? No 13
Shadow Of The Beast II No ? ? Yes
Shanghai YES YES YES YES
Sideshow (ACTIONWARE) YES YES ? ?
Sidewinder Yes ? No Yes
SimCity 1.0 Yes (Keydisk) ? No Yes
SimCity 1.1 ? ? ? Yes
SimCity 1.2 Yes Yes Yes Yes
Space Ace No ? ? Yes
Space Harrier No ? ? Yes
Speedball No ? ? NO
Spellbreaker (1.0?) Yes ? Yes ?
Spy Vs. Spy Yes a ? ? ?
Star Flight Yes a ? ? ?
StarGlider 2 NO YES YES ?
Stellar Crusade YES YES YES YES
SuperGridRunner Yes (needs patch)? ? ?
Sword of Aragon YES YES YES YES
Sword Of Sodan No ? ? Yes
Targis Yes ? ? ?
The Duel: Testdrive II YES YES ? YES 3
Their Finest hour (bat Brit)Yes ? ? ?
Three Stooges Yes ? ? No
Torch 2081 ? ? ? Yes
TV Sports Basketball Yes ? ? ?
Universal Military Simltr YES YES YES YES
Waterloo YES YES YES YES
Where in the Wrld is C S Yes ? ? ?
Wings Yes ? ? d cache
Zak McKrakin and Alien Mind Yes ? ? ?
Zany Golf Yes Yes ? Yes
Zork Zero Yes ? ? Yes
668 Attack Sub Yes ? ? ?
****** FOOTNOTES ********
a means you must make assignments to make it hdable.
Another hint is to try turning the data & instruction caches on/off
with cpu.
1. Runs fine on 3000, but there are intermittent graphics glitches where
floors and wall seem to disappear or smear.
2. Plays fine on 3000. However all the title pages and intro screens with
"tiles" the graphics are completely messed up. This does not affect game
play at all.
3. Game play is fine on 3000 but the graphics glitch throughout the game. It
is still playable, but annoying.
4. On 3000 game won't even load from floppy. From HD under 2.0 the game hangs
when you try to "Takeoff" from Armament screen. Under 1.3 once you are
in the cockpit the keyboard is hung/frozen.
5. Runs fine on 3000 from floppy only if you boot under 1.3. Won't run with 2.0
6. If run from HD on 3000: under 2.0 the game seems to play fine but if you
hit <esc> to get menus the game crashes. Under 1.3 once in the cockpit
the keyboard is hung/frozen.
7. Game runs fine on 3000 if you are on speed. In other words, the game runs,
but it is VERY VERY fast and nearly impossible to play at this speed.
8. Freezes on title screen under 2.0. Under 1.3, if it loads (sometimes it
does, sometimes not) it plays fine.
9. Doesn't run on 3000. But just a note that if you are running it on another
machine from hard disk you must use the original floppy as a key disk.
10. Plays fine under 2.0 and 1.3 but at accelerated speed on 3000. This doesn't
hinder play for this game.
11. Game runs on 3000 but with massive graphic glitches on the screen at all
times. Not really playable, but it runs.
12. Seems to run fine on 3000. It seems to have minor glitches undere 2.0 like
the sound sometimes disappears.
13. Game seems to load fine on 3000 but as soon as you attempt to move the game
hangs and crashes.
The patches are to change DF0: to something else, like F18: & GRD:.
PD Games HD 2500/20 2500/30 3000
--------- --- --------- -------- -----
Tetrix Yes YES ? ?
Omega Yes ? ? ?
Battletech Yes ? ? ?
Amoeba Invaders Yes YES ? ?
Mechforce (PD) 3.71 Yes ? Yes ?
Startrek (PD) Yes ? Yes ?
Asteroids (PD) Yes ? Yes ?
Tetris (PD, Andy Hook) Yes Yes Yes ?
Missile Command (PD) Yes ? No ?
******************* Important Information ************************
If you know a specific way to copy a Game to HD
a brief explanation 'how to' would be welcome... (like nib2.0)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nib2.0 states in its docs that it makes some games hdable. It works!
Also When You add to the list It would be nice if you used this format
Game HD 2500/20 2500/30 3000
-------------- ---- ------- ------- ----
Sim City 1.0 No Yes No No
Because it takes a long time to edit everyones output to match
And please specify if the game still needs a floppy key disk...
-Take it easy
-Tom Nezwek