mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) (02/17/91)
My friend and I are interested in seeing the 1991 price list for educational discounted Amigas. Can someone E-mail me the list? Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) Ohio State // The best way to accelerate a Mac is at 9.8 m/s^2 University \X/ Amiga ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) (02/17/91)
In article <1991Feb16.205551.11778@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu> mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) writes: >My friend and I are interested in seeing the 1991 price list >for educational discounted Amigas. > >Can someone E-mail me the list? Yesterday, I went down to one of our local Amiga dealers, and asked for the educational price list. What I got was the 8/15/90 prices. Given the fact that I have seen nothing official on Usenet or through any other source regarding the educational discount, I think we can safely assume that the old prices are still current. I have seen a post claiming new low (individual) prices, a post claiming the educational prices are gone, and a post claiming that CBM is getting ready to announce new low educational prices. Please note that none, not one, nada, zero, zip, were from CBM. Until and unless I see an official post, coming from cbmvax.commodore.com, I'll assume the status quo has not changed. I think you can safely assume the same. >mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) Ohio State // -- Dave Schaumann | DANGER: Access holes may tear easily. Use of the access | holes for lifting or carrying may result in damage to the dave@cs.arizona.edu | carton and subsequent injury to the user.
stx@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (02/17/91)
I just spent most of the afternoon talking to my local dealer (Northfield, MN)
about buying an Amiga 3000 through the ed. disc. What I was told was that
there are NO MORE BUNDLES. You piece together the system simply adding the
educational costs of the individual components together. I am not sure what
other prices are but an A3000 25/50 + A1950 = $3023 + tax and shipping.
On a side note anyone have any information on the MPS1270 Inkjet printer?
The educational price for it is $179.00. Anyone ever see or use it?
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (02/17/91)
In article <884@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) writes: >In article <1991Feb16.205551.11778@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu> mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) writes: >>My friend and I are interested in seeing the 1991 price list >>for educational discounted Amigas. >> >>Can someone E-mail me the list? > >Yesterday, I went down to one of our local Amiga dealers, and asked for the >educational price list. What I got was the 8/15/90 prices. > >Given the fact that I have seen nothing official on Usenet or through any >other source regarding the educational discount, I think we can safely assume >that the old prices are still current. > >I have seen a post claiming new low (individual) prices, a post claiming the >educational prices are gone, and a post claiming that CBM is getting ready >to announce new low educational prices. Please note that none, not one, nada, >zero, zip, were from CBM. Until and unless I see an official post, coming >from cbmvax.commodore.com, I'll assume the status quo has not changed. I think >you can safely assume the same. > Here are the facts: I may not be posting from cbmvax but I am an ASOCC for Columbia University. I am currently waiting for the pricelist in the mail, it should be in my hands early next week (Monday is a holiday for mailservice I believe). This is what I can tell you. There have been MAJOR changes to the structure of the educational discount. There are separate pricings for individuals and institutions. Institutions get very much reduced prices. Individuals are getting prices that are roughly the same as they were before, either slightly more or slightly less depending on exactly what you order. Things like the AT BB have come down tremendously, down to $479. All orders of A2000s and up (not sure about A500s) come with on-site service warranties for one year. You just call an 800 number and Honeywell/Bull will show up at your door in 24 hours. Also, the machines come with software packages, although a lot of the computer/monitor bundles are gone. You also now buy directly from your dealer. You make payment to your dealer, based on dealer policy. Your dealer also fills the order from stock, no need to wait 2-3 weeks for a special delivery. However, this means that you will have to pay sales tax wherever you purchase from. Like I said, as soon as I get a price list I'll post it. >>mboone@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Michael B. Boone) Ohio State // > >-- >Dave Schaumann | DANGER: Access holes may tear easily. Use of the access > | holes for lifting or carrying may result in damage to the >dave@cs.arizona.edu | carton and subsequent injury to the user. -- Ethan Q: What's the definition of a Quayle? A: Two right wings and no backbone.
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (02/17/91)
Question. If you're planning on sticking an '040 card in your Amiga, then what difference does it make whether you bought a 3000/16 or a 3000/25? Since the only difference between the two is in the CPU/FPU and the clock, the '040 card should drag the MB up to its own speed regardless. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
lindwall@babymilo.ucsd.edu (John Lindwall) (02/18/91)
In article <884@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave P. Schaumann) writes: >Yesterday, I went down to one of our local Amiga dealers, and asked for the >educational price list. What I got was the 8/15/90 prices. > >Given the fact that I have seen nothing official on Usenet or through any >other source regarding the educational discount, I think we can safely assume >that the old prices are still current. Last week I got a new price list from the major educational dealer in the area, the Lively Computer. The list is dated Feb. 1 1991. It includes all the old stuff, plus Unix systems, A2320, A2024, TCP/IP, an Ink-Jet printer, a Dot-matrix printer, etc. I don't have any facility for scanning the document into a computer, and I'm not good enough of a typist to type it in manually. Go to the main educational dealer near to get the list. John -- John Lindwall lindwall@cs.ucsd.edu "Oh look at me! I'm all flooby! I'll be a son of a gun!" -- Flaming Carrot
darrell@comspec.uucp (Darrell Grainger) (02/19/91)
In article <1991Feb17.134709.12684@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > Question. > > If you're planning on sticking an '040 card in your Amiga, then what difference > does it make whether you bought a 3000/16 or a 3000/25? Since the only > difference between the two is in the CPU/FPU and the clock, the '040 card should > drag the MB up to its own speed regardless. > -- > Peter da Silva. `-_-' > <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>. Won't the clock speed of the computer have some bearing on the speed of hard drive access regardless of the speed of the '040 card? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Darrell Grainger (darrell@comspec) |Comspec Communications Inc. | | Toronto, Ontario, Canada |Disclaimer: My opinions do not | | (416)617-1475 (416)633-5605 |reflect that of my employer. | |------------------------------------+-------------------------------| | Motorcycle: Honda PC800 | Computer: Amiga 2000 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com (Skipper Smith) (02/20/91)
In article <1991Feb17.134709.12684@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >Question. > >If you're planning on sticking an '040 card in your Amiga, then what difference >does it make whether you bought a 3000/16 or a 3000/25? Since the only >difference between the two is in the CPU/FPU and the clock, the '040 card should >drag the MB up to its own speed regardless. >-- >Peter da Silva. `-_-' ><peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>. Bzzzzzt!!! (Did you really write this Peter?) The CPU slot is not designed to remove the '030 from the system, therefore the motherboard still has to run at the speed it was designed to run at- just in case somebody does a multi- processor version of AmigaDOS, perhaps (I know, actually you should be using the '030 as an I/O processor). Also, what happens if someones decides they want to design a 50 MHz '030 or a 100 MHz ECL version of the 88110 to go into the board (not saying that such a thing will ever exist, of course :-)- should the motherboard be able to run at those speeds as well? Also, there are a couple of parts on the 16 MHz mb that are spec'd at 16 MHz- they won't run at 25 MHz to further differentiate the two mb's without making them too different. -- Skipper Smith | skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com Motorola Technical Training | 8945 Guilford Rd Ste 145 All opinions are my own, not my employers | Columbia, MD 21046
daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (02/22/91)
In article <1991Feb19.183108.26706@motaus.sps.mot.com> skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com (Skipper Smith) writes: >In article <1991Feb17.134709.12684@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >>Question. >>If you're planning on sticking an '040 card in your Amiga, then what difference >>does it make whether you bought a 3000/16 or a 3000/25? >>Peter da Silva. `-_-' >Bzzzzzt!!! (Did you really write this Peter?) The CPU slot is not designed to >remove the '030 from the system, therefore the motherboard still has to run >at the speed it was designed to run at- just in case somebody does a multi- >processor version of AmigaDOS, perhaps (I know, actually you should be using >the '030 as an I/O processor). Its up to the coprocessor card as to whether is wants to support use of the 68030 or not. If it does, it must clock the motherboard at its original speed. If not, it's possible for the coprocessor card to clock the motherboard at 25MHz. You have a choice of 16MHz or 25MHz, in any case; things like the memory controller can adjust for either speed, but not any arbitrary speed. >Also, there are a couple of parts on the 16 MHz mb that are spec'd at >16 MHz- they won't run at 25 MHz to further differentiate the two mb's >without making them too different. The 68881 and 68030, to be precise. The Amiga chips are all tested for 25MHz operation. You do have to change a few PCB jumpers to go add any coprocessor board, and a few more to go from 16MHz to 25MHz. Coprocessor boards that run at speeds other than 16MHz or 25MHz will use some kind of asynchronous interface anyway, kind of like in the A2630. Those will be much less likely to have a 25MHz clock around for motherboard speedups. >Skipper Smith | skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy "What works for me might work for you" -Jimmy Buffett
maverjj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Maver) (02/25/91)
Aren't the educational prices now just the same as before except without the monitors? The old price of the high end 3000 with 50mb hd was 3800; now it's 3500 + the 400 monitor. It seems like they got higher instead of lower! John Maver