[comp.sys.amiga.misc] NoClick still clicks!!

jwhitman@stl-06sima.army.mil (Jerry Whitman) (01/30/91)

I attempted to improve the environment in my 2000HD this week-end, but 
had very little success.  One of the things I tried was  Norman Iscoves
NoClick Version 3.6.  After executing it my DF0: still clicked merrily 
along, much to my dismay!

I tried this and Normans KeyBdFix procedure, neither of which worked for
me.  Since I have seen no problems reported on either I can only assume I
have done something fundamentally stupid.  The KeyBdFix is the subject of
another post if you want to check that one out.  The following is the scenario
for NoClick.

System: A2000HD /2090A controller / Rodime 40MB HD - pure vanilla system.
What I did: 
1. Downloaded & unzooed NoClick3.6 from FF246.
2. Copied NoClick3.6 to sys:c
3. At the shell prompt I entered NoClick3.6.
4. What is that noise, drive clicking?
5. Lets try that from a power boot-up to see if it makes any difference.
6. Repeat 3 & 4 above.
7.  AARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!

Normans documentation mentioned that some drives may not be able to do
a quiet negative step.  How do I determine if that is my case versus my
failing to do something correctly to get NoClick to do its thing??

Regards, Jerry Whitman - keeper of the FishXref and FishCon.

hb136@leah.albany.edu (Herb Brown) (01/31/91)

In article <43190@nigel.ee.udel.edu> jwhitman@stl-06sima.army.mil (Jerry Whitman) writes:
>
>I attempted to improve the environment in my 2000HD this week-end, but 
>had very little success.  One of the things I tried was  Norman Iscoves
>NoClick Version 3.6.  After executing it my DF0: still clicked merrily 
>along, much to my dismay!
>
>Regards, Jerry Whitman - keeper of the FishXref and FishCon.

This may not make you feel better, but it may assure you that you
certainly followed directions correctly.
I use an A2500/30 at home and at work. I installed NoClick 3.6 on
both machines. The pgm seems to work properly at home, but does not
stop the clicking at work. (So there!!??!!)
 
                                  Herb


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sirotto@oak.circa.ufl.edu (Mike Cerrato) (01/31/91)

In article <43190@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, jwhitman@stl-06sima.army.mil (Jerry Whitman) writes:
>
>I attempted to improve the environment in my 2000HD this week-end, but 
>had very little success.  One of the things I tried was  Norman Iscoves
>NoClick Version 3.6.  After executing it my DF0: still clicked merrily 
>along, much to my dismay!

I use NoClick3.4 and sometimes I have to stick a disk into the drive, let it
recoginize it and then pop it out again to get the clicking to stop.  That is
just my personal experiences, it may or may not work for you . . .
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new@ee.udel.edu (Darren New) (01/31/91)

In article <009437D9.6AA7F480@MAPLE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU> sirotto@oak.circa.ufl.edu (Mike Cerrato) writes:
>I use NoClick3.4 and sometimes I have to stick a disk into the drive, let it
>recoginize it and then pop it out again to get the clicking to stop.  That is

If the drive starts out far from track zero, it will click all the way
back to track zero and then stop.  For example, if you update a file
on the floppy, let everything flush, and then power off before taking
out the floppy, upon poweron (even with noclick) the drive will click about
40 times. This may or may not be what you are experiencing. -- Darren

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andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (01/31/91)

In article <1991Jan30.191951.29806@sarah.albany.edu> hb136@leah.albany.edu (Herb Brown) writes:
>In article <43190@nigel.ee.udel.edu> jwhitman@stl-06sima.army.mil (Jerry Whitman) writes:
>>
>>I attempted to improve the environment in my 2000HD this week-end, but 
>>had very little success.  One of the things I tried was  Norman Iscoves
>>NoClick Version 3.6.  After executing it my DF0: still clicked merrily 
>>along, much to my dismay!
>>
>>Regards, Jerry Whitman - keeper of the FishXref and FishCon.
>
>This may not make you feel better, but it may assure you that you
>certainly followed directions correctly.
>I use an A2500/30 at home and at work. I installed NoClick 3.6 on
>both machines. The pgm seems to work properly at home, but does not
>stop the clicking at work. (So there!!??!!)
> 


Danger, Will Robinson !  Danger !! Danger !!

If you run a NoClick type progam and it continues to click,
stop using the program Immediately.  Otherwise the drive
head is banging itself against the stop.  Which won't do it
any good at all.

			andy
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David.Plummer@f70.n140.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Plummer) (02/01/91)

[comments about noclick not working deleted]
 
I've often had problems with various "NoClick" programs not working 
properly if you have an external (or internal DF1:) that is empty.  If 
you have a disk in DF1:, and run noclick on DF0:, it generally seems to 
work.  Could just be me though...



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davem@hp-lsd.COS.HP.COM (Dave K. Martin) (02/26/91)

I've never had any success with any of the variants of NOCLICK.  I did find 
a little gem called SILENCE that seems to work quite well on my A2000 with 
3 floppies.  The drives click two or three times after SILENCE is run and then
they stop.  It does cause some (minor) problems with disc copiers like DFC
but there is a hot key combination to override SILENCE in these cases.
It is also compatible with CrossDos 4.0 which specifically recommends removing 
any NOCLICK clones from your system.  If there is enough interest, I will 
see if I can get it up to abcfd20 in the near future.


davem









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