[comp.sys.amiga.misc] Pro Page 1.2

pmorris@bbn.com (Phil Morris) (03/22/91)

Hi all,

I would like to get impressions from people about Professional Page v1.2.
I have a chance to buy it for under $100, new and unopened.

How is the package overall?  Is 1.2 the latest version?  If not, how far
out of date is it?  Is ProPage 1.2 worth about $100?

Thanks for any info,

-Phil Morris
 pmorris@bbn.com

kaye@FSCORE.dec.com (Mark Kaye - Where's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for Zero-G) (03/23/91)

In article <48528@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, pmorris@bbn.com (Phil Morris) writes...
>Hi all,
> 
>I would like to get impressions from people about Professional Page v1.2.
>I have a chance to buy it for under $100, new and unopened.
> 
>How is the package overall?  Is 1.2 the latest version?  If not, how far
>out of date is it?  Is ProPage 1.2 worth about $100?

I bought V1.2 last November for US$30 or so from some mailorder place in
Georgia. I sent in the registration card & got V2.0 for free in January.
That was a good deal. I'm sure if you are buying it new the same should go
for you.

Mark Kaye		|		|				|
Box 72, Munster Hamlet	| 613-838-3580  | kaye@fscore.dec.com		|
Ontario, Canada K0A 3P0	|		| DEC fscore::kaye or kaye @kao	|

ig29@terre (Robert Gagnon) (03/25/91)

In article <2800@shodha.enet.dec.com> kaye@FSCORE.dec.com (Mark Kaye - Where's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for Zero-G) writes:
>
>In article <48528@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, pmorris@bbn.com (Phil Morris) writes...
>>Hi all,
>> 
>>I would like to get impressions from people about Professional Page v1.2.
>>I have a chance to buy it for under $100, new and unopened.
>> 
>>How is the package overall?  Is 1.2 the latest version?  If not, how far
>>out of date is it?  Is ProPage 1.2 worth about $100?
>
>I bought V1.2 last November for US$30 or so from some mailorder place in
>Georgia. I sent in the registration card & got V2.0 for free in January.
>That was a good deal. I'm sure if you are buying it new the same should go
>for you.
>
>Mark Kaye		|		|				|

I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
get a reply.

So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.

Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?

Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
200$ for your product is no way to do good business.

Robert //
     \X/ Gagnon

fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (03/25/91)

>
> In article <2800@shodha.enet.dec.com> kaye@FSCORE.dec.com (Mark Kaye - Where's
>  my Kama Sutra pop-up book for Zero-G) writes:
> >
> >In article <48528@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, pmorris@bbn.com (Phil Morris) writes...
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I would like to get impressions from people about Professional Page v1.2.
> >>I have a chance to buy it for under $100, new and unopened.
> >>
> >>How is the package overall?  Is 1.2 the latest version?  If not, how far
> >>out of date is it?  Is ProPage 1.2 worth about $100?
> >
> >I bought V1.2 last November for US$30 or so from some mailorder place in
> >Georgia. I sent in the registration card & got V2.0 for free in January.
> >That was a good deal. I'm sure if you are buying it new the same should go
> >for you.
> >
> >Mark Kaye            |               |                               |
>
> I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
> a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
> get a reply.
>
> So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.
>
> Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?
>
> Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
> 200$ for your product is no way to do good business.
>
> Robert //
>      \X/ Gagnon
>
I segistered my ProPage 1.3 in November '89, and have gotten nothing but a
ProDraw offer that expired the day after I got it in the mail. I have never
received an upgrade to ProPage 1.3, nor to Transcript, which I also
registered. Gold Disk has lessened my respect for them GREATLY. Soft-Logik's
support for Pagestream is FAR better.

                                                --Rick Wrigley
                                                fhwri@conncoll.bitnet
                                ~~~second-hand smoke is THEFT~~~

rcj2@cbnewsd.att.com (ray.c.jender) (03/25/91)

In article <48713@nigel.ee.udel.edu> fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu writes:
>>
>> In article <2800@shodha.enet.dec.com> kaye@FSCORE.dec.com (Mark Kaye - Where's
>>  my Kama Sutra pop-up book for Zero-G) writes:
>> >
>> >In article <48528@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, pmorris@bbn.com (Phil Morris) writes...
>> >>Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>I would like to get impressions from people about Professional Page v1.2.
>> >>I have a chance to buy it for under $100, new and unopened.
>> >>
>> >>How is the package overall?  Is 1.2 the latest version?  If not, how far
>> >>out of date is it?  Is ProPage 1.2 worth about $100?
>> >
>> >I bought V1.2 last November for US$30 or so from some mailorder place in
>> >Georgia. I sent in the registration card & got V2.0 for free in January.
>> >That was a good deal. I'm sure if you are buying it new the same should go
>> >for you.
>> >
>> >Mark Kaye            |               |                               |
>>
>> I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
>> a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
>> get a reply.
>>
>> So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.
>>
>> Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?
>>
>> Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
>> 200$ for your product is no way to do good business.
>>
>> Robert //
>>      \X/ Gagnon
>>
>I segistered my ProPage 1.3 in November '89, and have gotten nothing but a
>ProDraw offer that expired the day after I got it in the mail. I have never
>received an upgrade to ProPage 1.3, nor to Transcript, which I also
>registered. Gold Disk has lessened my respect for them GREATLY. Soft-Logik's
>support for Pagestream is FAR better.
>
>                                                --Rick Wrigley
>                                                fhwri@conncoll.bitnet
>                                ~~~second-hand smoke is THEFT~~~


	Now I'm not defending Gold Disk by any means.
	I was registered for 1.3 for around a year.
	I believe the upgrade price was $75.00. Sent it
	in and received 2.0 around 8 weeks later.
	Actually, if I remember right, I called and requested
	the upgrade over the phone. I was kinda pissed at the
	way they did it. I think they said registered owners
	after Aug, 1990 get 2.0 free. Otherwisw, $75.00!!!

ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi (03/26/91)

In article <1991Mar25.011940.15869@DMI.USherb.CA>, ig29@terre (Robert Gagnon) 
writes:
 
> I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
> a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
> get a reply.
> 
> So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.
> 
> Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?
> 
> Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
> 200$ for your product is no way to do good business.
> 
> Robert //
>      \X/ Gagnon

Gold Disk seems to have serious problems with customer support, it is not just 
you. I have never got anything from them, not even an advertisement, without 
contacting them first. And still, most of my letters were never answered...

I was also stuck with the PPage 1.3 a long time (and with 1.1 even longer time;
fortunately my dealer was able to arrange the 1.3 upgrade), but then I 
contacted a few other PPage users and we decided to send a 'collective' Fax to 
Gold Disk, asking for the new version. After a few weeks each of us got a 
letter and an upgrade offer from GD. I got finally the upgrade a couple of 
weeks ago... (Boy I was surpriced when I saw the package on my desk:-)

If someone will meet Mr. Kailash at some Expo or conference, PLEASE ask him,
what is actually the problem with their customer service...

BTW, has anyone ever seen the New Laser Times, which they promised to their
registered users? 

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fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (03/26/91)

>
>       Now I'm not defending Gold Disk by any means.
>       I was registered for 1.3 for around a year.
>       I believe the upgrade price was $75.00. Sent it
>       in and received 2.0 around 8 weeks later.
>       Actually, if I remember right, I called and requested
>       the upgrade over the phone. I was kinda pissed at the
>       way they did it. I think they said registered owners
>       after Aug, 1990 get 2.0 free. Otherwisw, $75.00!!!
>
        I don't have any problem with the $75 charge to upgrade ProPage
from 1.3 to 2.0--you DO get the new manual, the Text Editor (which is
the *BEST* feature of ProPage), etc. My bitch is that I, a registered
user, have not received any notice whatsoever of an upgrade offer. That's
just shoddy business practice. As I said, Soft-Logik's customer support
beats Gold Disk's all hollow, and (IMHO) their DTP program beats Gold Disk's
DTP program all hollow as well.

                                                --Rick Wrigley
                                                fhwri@conncoll.bitnet
                                ~~~second-hand smoke is THEFT~~~

ig29@terre (Robert Gagnon) (03/26/91)

In article <48713@nigel.ee.udel.edu> fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu writes:
>> I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
>> a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
>> get a reply.
>>
>> So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.
>>
>> Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?
>>
>> Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
>> 200$ for your product is no way to do good business.
>>
>> Robert //
>>      \X/ Gagnon
>>
>I segistered my ProPage 1.3 in November '89, and have gotten nothing but a
>ProDraw offer that expired the day after I got it in the mail. I have never
>received an upgrade to ProPage 1.3, nor to Transcript, which I also
>registered. Gold Disk has lessened my respect for them GREATLY. Soft-Logik's
>support for Pagestream is FAR better.

But Gold Disk's offer (free 2.0) was valid only if you purchased 1.3 after a 
certain date.  Last November (1990) was valid for the free update.  I never
got my update.  I am going to get real mad!

>
>                                                --Rick Wrigley
>                                                fhwri@conncoll.bitnet
>                                ~~~second-hand smoke is THEFT~~~

Robert //
     \X/ Gagnon

rcj2@cbnewsd.att.com (ray.c.jender) (03/26/91)

In article <1991Mar25.215624.5721@cc.helsinki.fi> ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>In article <1991Mar25.011940.15869@DMI.USherb.CA>, ig29@terre (Robert Gagnon) 
>writes:
> 
>> I bought V1.3 last November.  I sent my registration card (with sticker and
>> a copy of my bill).  Did not receive anything.  Sent a letter.  Did not even
>> get a reply.
>> 
>> So here I am, at the end of March, still stuck with 1.3.
>> 
>> Is this situation generalized, or am I the only one being forgotten?
>> 
>> Don't know about others, but I think ignoring customers who paid almost
>> 200$ for your product is no way to do good business.
>> 
>> Robert //
>>      \X/ Gagnon
>
>Gold Disk seems to have serious problems with customer support, it is not just 
>you. I have never got anything from them, not even an advertisement, without 
>contacting them first. And still, most of my letters were never answered...
>

	I think I got yours and someone elses smail, a couple of
	offers for ProPage 2.0, and ProDraw 2.0, AFTER I had already
	received both!?!?...Go figure......
>
>BTW, has anyone ever seen the New Laser Times, which they promised to their
>registered users? 
>

	I think it's the figment of Gold Disk's imagination, or
	no one there could get past the New Laser Times demo lesson...