nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) (04/04/91)
Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? If not, why not?
yorkw@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Willis F York) (04/04/91)
nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >If not, why not? AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya saw that silly program on Computer chronicials diden't ya. (I loved the "Only $40" bit) several reasons ya DON'T want a program like AFTER DARK 1) The thing puts up stuff on ya screen, a screen blanker is supposed to BLANK the screen. What's the diff tween a AFTER DARK and just showing a ANIM. (Which is what the program does) 2) The amiga MULTITASKS, the LAST thing ya want is a screen blanker that will SLOW down the machine... Example: * I start downloading with Zmodem a BIG file, (Takes 10 min) * I decide to take a quick shower. * The screen blanker pops up, and (Assuming it's an AFTERDARK kinda thing) SLOWS down the machine! thus slows down the downloading. ICK!!! get a simple screenblanker, like...... ClockDJ, or somthing.. leave the flying tosters to those who are deserving... :^) T The more i see the Computer Chronicials the More i'm convinded that ALL of them should be fired. Espicially that "reviewer" guy. -- yorkw@ecn.purdue.edu aka Willis F York aka Squid on IRC The only thing that Apple invented is the idea to borrow Xerox-invented ideas. (Hope THIS sig don't insult anyone!) :^)
cs326ag@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle) (04/05/91)
In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >If not, why not? I just put NewPop on ab20. It is a screen blanker with some bells and whistles (with full source) that is completely user configurable. You only get one blank mode (Dancing Qix pattern), but then again it doesn't take a one MB machine with HD to run (like AFTER DARK :-). NewPop has (all turn offable) titlebar clock, titlebar CPU monitor (really task switching monitor, BTW), SCSI I/O monitor. NewPop has features you don't get anywhere else: Auto-blanking and defeat-blanking (this relates to mouse position on the screen). Copyright info: NewPop v3.0 by Loren J. Rittle - Copyright ) 1989 - 1991 Based upon: POPCLI III by John Toebes - Copyright ) 1987 The Software Distillery But as with PopCLI, you may freely copy the software with a few simple restrictions, namely that *no* charge is made for its distribution and the docs come with it. I can email copies for a short amount of time. But look for it in /incoming/amiga/UTILS on ab20 if you can. Loren J. Rittle l-rittle@uiuc.edu -- ``NewTek stated that the Toaster *would* *not* be made to directly support the Mac, at this point Sculley stormed out of the booth...'' --- A scene at the recent MacExpo. Gee, you wouldn't think that an Apple Exec would be so worried about one little Amiga device... Loren J. Rittle l-rittle@uiuc.edu
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (04/05/91)
In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >If not, why not? Huh? There are THOUSANDS! Some of them really shutting down the screen to darkness, others doing some faint grahics that won't burn in on the screen, won't take much processor power but entertain you and signal you that Amiga is still alive. And the best side of the coin: All those blanker programs I know are Public Domain, free! -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
lou@vaxsc (04/06/91)
In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu>, nemesis want-to-be <nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu> writes: >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >If not, why not? Is this the one that draws 3-d spheres in the center of the screen? I found this questionable! How can a stationary 3-d sphere being (slowly) drawn be better for the screen, than any other stationary object? Granted they don't draw them and leave them there, but ... They do take time to draw, and they leave them there momentarily. They are also part of a repeating pattern (as I remember), so they are not the only thing being drawn. But they recur frequently enough. It seems as though this would be as bad as the original image, both can burn phosphor, just in a different pattern. If this isn't the same one, never mind. ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Lou Williams Via Bitnet : william8@niehs.bitnet Via Internet: lou@vaxsc.niehs.nih.gov Computer Sciences Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC ---------------------------------------------------------------- Favorite Oxymoron: "Brought to you by the 70's preservation society. Not available on 8-track." ----------------------------------------------------------------
dtiberio@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) (04/06/91)
In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >If not, why not? There is a program on PCQ in the Examples/ dir that is called 'moire', so I assume it is the same type of screen blanker. -- David Tiberio SUNY Stony Brook 2-3481 AMIGA DDD-MEN -- Any students from SUNY Oswego? Please let me know! :)
jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour) (04/06/91)
In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: > >Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? > I don't know what "AFTER DARK" is, but there are screen blankers available for the Amiga. A friend of mine is running something called (I think) Dmouse. It blanks the screen, allows you to accelerate the mouse, and even blanks the pointer when the mouse has not been moved for a programmable (I think) amount of time. He loves it. Also, AmigaDOS 2.0 comes with it's own blanker program, which you can start manually or make happen on start- up if you want. It's also programmable for time-out. If you make it start up automatically, you can use a thingie called "commodities" to disable/enable it at will. -- Jim Seymour | Medar, Inc. ...!uunet!medar!jseymour | 38700 Grand River Ave. jseymour@medar.com | Farmington Hills, MI. 48331 CIS: 72730,1166 GEnie: jseymour | FAX: (313)477-8897
metahawk@itsgw.rpi.edu (Wayne G Rigby) (04/06/91)
I think what was wanted is if there are any screen blanker with modules.
After Dark (and the newer versions of Pyro for the Mac) has different modules
that show different graphics (and sounds).
For example, I've seen modules that show moire patterns, laser diffraction
patterns, a cityscape composed entirely by the lights from windows, etc.
There are easily over 50 different modules for After Dark. The modules
can be created by anyone who knows how to program a Mac (Yuck!).
The program can be set to randomly display modules from a list of user
selected modules. It can even combine modules (one of my favorites is
the cityscape combined with one that displays lightning bolts with a
crash of thunder).
While I believe blankers that do things like this defeat there purpose
many a time, they can be awful attractive.
Metahawk
metahawk@rpi.edumac1@ra.MsState.Edu (Cheema) (04/07/91)
I'll appreciate if somebody can put up the name of some good screen blanker its price and where to look for it. Thanx . -Cheema
xgr39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (Marc Barrett) (04/07/91)
In article <107@hdwr1.medar.com>, jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour) writes: >In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >> >>Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >> > >I don't know what "AFTER DARK" is, but there are screen blankers available >for the Amiga. A friend of mine is running something called (I think) >Dmouse. It blanks the screen, allows you to accelerate the mouse, and even >blanks the pointer when the mouse has not been moved for a programmable (I >think) amount of time. He loves it. Also, AmigaDOS 2.0 comes with it's >own blanker program, which you can start manually or make happen on start- >up if you want. It's also programmable for time-out. If you make it >start up automatically, you can use a thingie called "commodities" to >disable/enable it at will. After Dark is more than just a screen blanker. It puts various types of animations on the screen while the screen is 'blanked' to avoid monitor burn-in. If this person is looking for something along the lines of After Dark, I think he wants something that does more than just turn the screen black or put a few moving lines on the screen. After Dark comes with a large number of modules that put everything from color flying toasters to moving skylines of cities to shuffling pieces of the screen around (in a puzzle fashion) while the screen is blanked. A lot of this simple animations are quite fun to watch. Unfortunately, I have never come across anything coming close to resembling this for the Amiga. > >-- >Jim Seymour | Medar, Inc. >....!uunet!medar!jseymour | 38700 Grand River Ave. >jseymour@medar.com | Farmington Hills, MI. 48331 >CIS: 72730,1166 GEnie: jseymour | FAX: (313)477-8897 -MB- ---------------------------------------------------------- / Marc Barrett | BITNET: XGR39@ISUVAX.BITNET / / ISU COM S Student | Internet: XGR39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU / ----------------------------------------------------------
maverjj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Maver) (04/07/91)
Can someone mail me a copy of wiconify, please? thanks, John Maver
aq078@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Glenn Waldron) (04/07/91)
Try NewPop, just uploaded to ab20.. it's got a great screen blanker, plus a couple of other interesting features. ->Glenn. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn A. Waldron Virginia Tech E-Mail: gwaldron@gnu.ai.mit.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------
bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) (04/07/91)
In article <1991Apr6.184454.26223@news.iastate.edu> xgr39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: > > After Dark is more than just a screen blanker. It puts various types >of animations on the screen while the screen is 'blanked' to avoid monitor >burn-in. If this person is looking for something along the lines of >After Dark, I think he wants something that does more than just turn >the screen black or put a few moving lines on the screen. > > After Dark comes with a large number of modules that put everything >from color flying toasters to moving skylines of cities to shuffling >pieces of the screen around (in a puzzle fashion) while the screen is >blanked. A lot of this simple animations are quite fun to watch. >Unfortunately, I have never come across anything coming close to resembling >this for the Amiga. After Dark is not a screen blanker. If it were, it would blank the screen. It is pretty, but there are plenty of things like it for the Amiga. Get ARexx. Then get Elan Performer. Then write an ARexx script that plays the Walker demo, or a Toaster anim, or anything by Eric Schwartz, after a certain period of no input. Blows After Dark to hell, don't it? > / Marc Barrett | BITNET: XGR39@ISUVAX.BITNET / Marc, do you own an Amiga? I've been curious for some time now. Dave Hopper | /// Anthro Creep | Academic Info Resources, Stanford |__ /// . . | Macincrap/UNIX Consultant bard@jessica. |\\\/// Ia! Ia! | -- Just remember: love is life, and Stanford.EDU | \XX/ Shub-Niggurath! | hate is living death. :Black Sabbath
gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) (04/07/91)
From article <1991Apr6.222007.10646@leland.Stanford.EDU>, by bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper): > After Dark is not a screen blanker. If it were, it would blank the > screen. It is pretty, but there are plenty of things like it for the > Amiga. Get ARexx. Then get Elan Performer. Then write an ARexx script > that plays the Walker demo, or a Toaster anim, or anything by Eric > Schwartz, after a certain period of no input. Blows After Dark to hell, > don't it? Do you realize you're telling me to buy Elan Performer so I can have something more interesting than just a blank screen? There's a good reason for wanting it, you know. I don't know if you have kids, but then again, neither do I. But I do have a kid brother, and his kid friends. And when they see the monitor off, or nothing on the screen, they'll pop out my disks, shut off the computer, turn it back on after 10 seconds, and play their games. I think not. I think VERY not. I don't want to have to put up with this. Not at all... The easy way out is to get a blanker that puts something on the screen, so they know it's being used. Which is most of the time... I'm making a collection, and so far, I've got 7 or 8. Still looking for Dmouse, at least the newest version I can find, but I found qmouse, two StarBlankers (two DIFFERENT ones...), two fireworks, and a nifty line-one that I'm using now by Loren Rittle, and btw, it's great. Still looking for more, and I've got a few I haven't named... -- - gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu - | IBM's brain is on overload, and Apple Gregory Block | needs to be potty-trained. C= may not Toaster+Amiga=The One True DTV | be marketing geniuses, but theyre the ________________________________| best engineers I've seen... -Wubba
bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) (04/07/91)
In article <10822@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes: >From article <1991Apr6.222007.10646@leland.Stanford.EDU>, by bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper): >> After Dark is not a screen blanker. If it were, it would blank the >> screen. It is pretty, but there are plenty of things like it for the >> Amiga. Get ARexx. Then get Elan Performer. Then write an ARexx script >> that plays the Walker demo, or a Toaster anim, or anything by Eric >> Schwartz, after a certain period of no input. Blows After Dark to hell, >> don't it? > >Do you realize you're telling me to buy Elan Performer so I can have >something more interesting than just a blank screen? Nope, just suggesting that you buy Elan Performer if you want something like After Dark, a bloated CPU/memory-hog that taxes the Mac's capacity to animate. Personally, I use Mackie or Klide. Simple, small, and impressive as all get-out. > Gregory Block | needs to be potty-trained. C= may not Dave Hopper | /// Anthro Creep | Academic Info Resources, Stanford |__ /// . . | Macincrap/UNIX Consultant bard@jessica. |\\\/// Ia! Ia! | -- Just remember: love is life, and Stanford.EDU | \XX/ Shub-Niggurath! | hate is living death. :Black Sabbath
gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) (04/08/91)
From article <1991Apr7.111052.26720@leland.Stanford.EDU>, by bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper): > Nope, just suggesting that you buy Elan Performer if you want something > like After Dark, a bloated CPU/memory-hog that taxes the Mac's capacity > to animate. Personally, I use Mackie or Klide. Simple, small, and > impressive as all get-out. Nope. You see, it's a bloated cpu hog because of the way the Macintosh works, with the cpu doing everything... How much cpu time would it take to move a 16 color toaster across the screen and then animate it? Where can I get Mackie and Klide. I'll add them to my increasing collection. -- - gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu - | IBM's brain is on overload, and Apple Gregory Block | needs to be potty-trained. C= may not Toaster+Amiga=The One True DTV | be marketing geniuses, but theyre the ________________________________| best engineers I've seen... -Wubba
jph@ais.org (Joseph Hillenburg) (04/08/91)
In article <1991Apr6.184454.26223@news.iastate.edu> xgr39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU (Mister Clueless) writes: > After Dark is more than just a screen blanker. It puts various types >of animations on the screen while the screen is 'blanked' to avoid monitor >burn-in. If this person is looking for something along the lines of >After Dark, I think he wants something that does more than just turn >the screen black or put a few moving lines on the screen. > > After Dark comes with a large number of modules that put everything >from color flying toasters to moving skylines of cities to shuffling >pieces of the screen around (in a puzzle fashion) while the screen is >blanked. A lot of this simple animations are quite fun to watch. >Unfortunately, I have never come across anything coming close to resembling >this for the Amiga. > And the Amiga is going to *DIE* without something like After Dark? I mean, if we want to play animations on our machines, we'll fire up SuperView or ShowANIM or something of that nature. Screen blankers aren't supposed to keep the same type of thing on the screen at any one time, even animations. > -MB- -- // Joseph Hillenburg/Blackwinter, Secretary, Bloomington Amiga Users Group \X/ jph@valnet.UUCP jph@irie.ais.org jph@gnu.ai.mit.edu "Project: Desert Storm is also known as ``The Mother of All Ass-Kickings.''"
wally@pallas.athenanet.com (Wally Hartshorn) (04/10/91)
In article <1991Apr7.111052.26720@leland.Stanford.EDU> bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper) writes: >Personally, I use Mackie or Klide. Simple, small, and >impressive as all get-out. What are "Mackie" and "Klide" like? Are they in the Fish collection? I run a BBS on my Amiga and would like an interesting screen-saver, but it can't be a CPU hog or my users will have problems. :-) I have Pyro, but am looking for something else. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen more activity in this area, similar to the flood of screen hacks that we had a few years back. -- Wally Hartshorn (uunet!pallas!wally or wally@athenanet.com) President, Amiga Computer Enthusiasts of Springfield (ACES) Chronicler, Shire of Swordcliff, SCA Sysop, The Quest, F&SF BBS, Citadel-68K node US (217) 546-7608
jerry@truevision.com (Jerry Thompson) (04/11/91)
In article <107@hdwr1.medar.com> jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour) writes: >In article <1991Apr4.143420.24871@milton.u.washington.edu> nemisis@milton.u.washington.edu (nemesis want-to-be) writes: >> >>Is there any screen blankers for the amiga like AFTER DARK on the MAC? >> > >I don't know what "AFTER DARK" is, but there are screen blankers available >for the Amiga. A friend of mine is running something called (I think) >Dmouse. It blanks the screen, allows you to accelerate the mouse, and even >blanks the pointer when the mouse has not been moved for a programmable (I >think) amount of time. He loves it. Also, AmigaDOS 2.0 comes with it's >own blanker program, which you can start manually or make happen on start- >up if you want. It's also programmable for time-out. If you make it >start up automatically, you can use a thingie called "commodities" to >disable/enable it at will. > >-- >Jim Seymour | Medar, Inc. >...!uunet!medar!jseymour | 38700 Grand River Ave. >jseymour@medar.com | Farmington Hills, MI. 48331 >CIS: 72730,1166 GEnie: jseymour | FAX: (313)477-8897 You should check out Mach II (or III). It has all the screen blank, mouse blank/accelerate, function keys, clock stuff that I have seen in these type of programs. It also has a nice screen for online editing of parameters. If that isn't enough for us customization junkies, the kicker is that all these parameters can be configured on a per window basis. You can specify different parameters to be loaded when you click in a particular window. System tweaking OverDose! Oh, god, here comes the rush again... -- Jerry Thompson | // checks ___________ | "I'm into S&M, I loved the peace and solitude | \\ // and | | | | Sarcasm and so much, I invited my friends. | \X/ balances /_\ | /_\ | Mass Sarcasm."
jimmy@uhunix1.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jimmy Chan) (04/12/91)
In article <1991Apr6.184454.26223@news.iastate.edu> xgr39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU writes: > After Dark comes with a large number of modules that put everything >from color flying toasters to moving skylines of cities to shuffling >pieces of the screen around (in a puzzle fashion) while the screen is >blanked. A lot of this simple animations are quite fun to watch. >Unfortunately, I have never come across anything coming close to resembling >this for the Amiga. > -MB- After Dark is a nifty program but then you haven't mentioned the nifty price of ~$49 that you will have to pay for it. I would rather use a free screen blanker like ClockDJ and buy a game for that price. There is also the factor that if After Dark pops up and your Mac is hooked up to a Server then the program will slow down the network. A friend of mine that does programming on the Mac noticed this effect when he was doing some database programming on the Mac with After Dark running. Many or all of the Amiga screen blankers will not affect CPU performance or network performance (I think..8-)).
amatthews@zodiac.rutgers.edu (04/13/91)
I've been reading alot about how wonderful the "Mackie" screen blanker is for the Amiga. However, I've searched all the BBS's local to me, as well as the mess over at ab20. (I also did a search of FILES.Z at ab20 -- another mess). Where can I find this incredible little program?