[comp.sys.amiga.misc] Fish disks for ux1.cso.uiuc.edu: Pledge drive

schwager@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Michael Schwager) (04/19/91)

Greetings,
Well April 12th has come and gone, and here's the update to the
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu situation, as promised (albeit late).  

Included in this email: Introduction (what's going on), Pledge
Instructions, and Current State of the Drive (CSoD).

******************** Introduction *********************

First, what's going on: I'm collecting *pledges* to be used to get Fish
Disk subscriptions for putting disks up on ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59).
The disks will be mailed directly to my office, and they'll go up in one
heck of a hurry... I have my A500 connected to my Sun 3/50 at 9600 baud via
DNet.  The Net can expect two things: fast uploading (regularly within 48
hours of receiving the disks, I'd say), and about 4-500 Meg of disk space
for the archive.  Unfortunately, this means that ux1 is becoming a FIFO.

I'm not collecting money, yet- although some people have already sent me
checks and that's fine.  I'll collect pledges between now and the 26th of
April, 1991.  We need $300 altogether for the next subscription.  It would
be nice to have $250 more to pay Lionel for the last bunch.  I'm including 
$50 of my own (per 100 disk subscription), so we need $500 altogether.

At this time, I'm simply waiting on a reply from the folks at uiowa 
(isca.icaen.uiowa.edu) to see what their situation is.  They've said that 
they'll be putting up Fish disks in the future, and it won't cost anybody
anything.  In that case, it wouldn't make sense to spend money on another 
subscription.  But I haven't yet seen disks 451-470 up over there and
I'm waiting on a reply to my email about the service we could expect from
uiowa.  By the way, they do have disks 1-55, which ux1 does not.  

So depending on how that looks, I'll then make my address available to
the pledgers, and people can shower me with mail :-).

********************** Pledge Instructions ********************************
Send me your *pledges*...  email to schwager@mike.cs.uiuc.edu, 

     Instructions for Emailing Pledges
     ---------------------------------
1. Send email to:  schwager@cs.uiuc.edu
     (other pertinent network data:)
     UUCP:{uunet|convex|pur-ee}!uiucdcs!schwager
     BITNET:schwager@mike.cs.uiuc.edu

2. ***please include the word "pledge" in the subject***
   case doesn't matter, and other words don't matter.

3. In the text of your message, please include:
     Your name
     a return email address (preferably one that works :-)
     the amount of your pledge

4. Suggested amounts: $10 individual, $30 user group, $50 corporate
     ... (just pulled those figures off the top of my head, folks)
     ---------------------------------

I will email you a short reply to let you know I received your pledge
(it may take a few days).

I will automagically put you on the Fish Disks mailing list
(fishdisks@cs.uiuc.edu).  This list will be used to keep you up-to-date on
pledges and whatever else may (or may not) be happening wrt to the Fish
disk situation on ux1.cso.uiuc.edu... like when new disks are put online,
for example.  Of course, I will keep you off the list if you'd rather.

If you'd like to be on the fishdisks mailing list (without making a pledge),
send email to me or to

     fishdisks-request@cs.uiuc.edu

     ***please include the word "fish" in the subject***

(case insensitive).  Remember, if you've pledged, you're on it.  Anybody 
who wants to could then reach the entire mailing list by emailing to 
     
     fishdisks@cs.uiuc.edu

if you wanted to check up on my integrity or make sure I wasn't laundering
the money or anything like this...


******************* Current State of the Drive ***************************

Lots of exclamation points coming up... response to the pledges has been
good, the sun is out, the birds are singing, I got a good night's sleep, I'm
gonna dance my feet off tonight... in short, life's good!

I've collected about $831 in pledges so far!  Wow, that's great!  So we pay
Lionel $250, that leaves us $581!  Let's say $525 just in case some folks
forget to send the bux or whatever.  Now I'm going to provide $50, so that
means we will have $575 to work with.  So I'll put in $50 for the next
bunch (I am, after all, getting first dibs on the disks and basically
keeping the lot here in my office), so that means we've got $625, enough
for 200 more fish disks (plus 25 bucks)!  Cool!  Personally, I think
getting two Fish subscriptions and giving Fred the extra dollars would
be nice... unless, of course, this posting generates many more replies.
In that case, I'd say let's get THREE subscriptions!

Actually, does anybody know how much 600 Meg hard disks are going for
these days?  Maybe it would even be possible to get a subscription and
fork over some cash for a hard drive for ux1... that way, we'd have lots
more disk space for Fish disks, and they could ALL go on there.  Well,
I'll check into it... no promises here...

See ya!
-Mike Schwager                             | Machine: Amiga 500, 3 MB RAM/30 HD
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hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Adam Hill) (04/19/91)

  Micheal,


   How about ux1 and isca SPLITTING a subscription. Just mail the
floppies back and forth. (Not that I want to remove money from the
hands of Fred :-) ) And how about a subscription to AW Tech and/or AC
Tech? AW Tech has already said they wish to spread the disk far and
wide so I might go ahead and give AC a call and see what their stance
is. 

  I think $831.00 is TRUELY AMAZING. The collective concious of c.s.a
should give itself a pat on the back. Perhaps Tad could use another
200M HD for ab20..... :-) Nah......

-- 
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     And heard no human voices.              Amiga... Multimedia NOW!  
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schwager@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Michael Schwager) (04/19/91)

hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Adam Hill) writes:


>  Micheal,


>   How about ux1 and isca SPLITTING a subscription. Just mail the
>floppies back and forth. (Not that I want to remove money from the
>hands of Fred :-) ) And how about a subscription to AW Tech and/or AC
>Tech? AW Tech has already said they wish to spread the disk far and
>wide so I might go ahead and give AC a call and see what their stance
>is. 

I personally wouldn't mind doing the AC Tech, since I recieve that
publication (including disk).  Unfortunately, I'll quote from AC Tech 1.1:

	"Although many of the individual files and directories on the
	AC's Tech Disk are freely redistributable, the AC's Tech Disk
	itself and the collection of individual files and directories
	on the AC's Tech Disk are Copyright (blah blah) ...and may not be
	duplicated in any way."

If AW is any different and someone wants to send me a disk on a regular
basis, then I'd be happy to put it up.

It seems that we could do things electronically, via ftp.  I'm pondering
what to do right now.  Maybe it's still a good idea to have *two* sources
for current Fish disks, and if people want to contribute $10 for a second
archive, then we could go ahead with it.  Maybe in a "competitive"
environment we'd have better service... "Why, if you go with OUR archive,
you'll get a free calculator!" :-) :-) :-)  Seriously, then we'd have that
extra site that people could draw from, and we'd have the extra security
and reliability for downloading Fish disks via ftp...

>  I think $831.00 is TRUELY AMAZING. The collective concious of c.s.a
>should give itself a pat on the back. Perhaps Tad could use another
>200M HD for ab20..... :-) Nah......

Indeed, the response has been truly heartwarming.
-Mike Schwager                             | Machine: Amiga 500, 3 MB RAM/30 HD
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