[comp.sys.amiga.misc] COMPUTE! SUX

glin@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (George Lin [900116]) (05/01/91)

Whatever happened to this magazine?  

Isn't PC Week, PC Magazine, PC *.* enough?  

Now we have a PC Magazine-wanna-be-but-won't-admit-it magazine here.

specter@disk.uucp (Byron Max Guernsey) (05/02/91)

glin@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (George Lin [900116]) writes:

>Whatever happened to this magazine?  

>Isn't PC Week, PC Magazine, PC *.* enough?  

>Now we have a PC Magazine-wanna-be-but-won't-admit-it magazine here.

I agree totally. I bought it cause I thought they were a ALL computer mag,
but then I noticed it seems to be one of those PC pages things.

Anyway what ticked me off is that in the "Letters" section of the issue I saw
someone wrote in and asked what computer they should get to start their child
off in graphics and animation. (They said the kid was about 12 or 13) The
editor (or whoever answers the letters) replied and said that he should get
an IBM (of all machine!) and said that he will need at least a 386 and a
postscript compatible laser printer...etc... Jeez this guy is nuts. 

I started writing a letter to the magazine displaying my disgust with it and
to ask why he did not suggest an amiga with ALL of its animation programs
and virtually endless graphics expandability, but then I decided it wasn't worth
my effort...the letter would probably not appear...and I would have wasted
27 cents for a stamp and 20 minutes of my own time. 

I know I wouldn't go out and spend the money necessary to buy a 386, VGA,
PostScript printer (laser that is), and who knows how much on animation
software for ibm (Geeez and we all know about their "superior" .GL format!
GAG! ) to start my kid out in animation, especially when the tools can be
purchased for 1/2 the price and the child will have a better system for
animation and graphics. 

I think the reply article was a waste of trees! Not to mention a waste of my
time reading, and the most uninformed suggestion of the year. If you seriously
want to get into animation and graphics I would suggest an amiga 3000 or 2000
with speed enhancements, some 3-d rendering and ray tracing software (I like
Turbo Silver, but Sculpt-4d is supposed to be better), an animation program->
animagic by aegis would be nice...there are others of course, and later you
could buy one of those 24 bit display boards...(HAM-E, CD_TV?, ColorBurst, etc)
and of course for fun...a genloc! or even a toaster! 

Jeers to compute!

Byron
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maxc1503@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) (05/02/91)

If I read the same COMPUTE! magazine as one being discussed here, the new
issue has an article describe the European market on computers, and this
author from Guardian, a newspaper in U.K. explains and describes how the
Amiga and Atari owns the market in Germany and U.K., and the trends and
the P.C. etc. Very good marketing and trend article, and shows that
MS-DOS does not (but trying very hard recently) cut in the education and
home market there. Also companies like Amstrad are mentioned.

If the less imformed MS-DOS users read the article, they have to ask themselves
why the European chooses the Amiga or Atari, why not MS_DOS?

The magazine was sold to OMNI (I heard), and from then on they dropped 
coverage on other platforms including Amiga, Atari ST, C64 etc.

MS-DOS/IBM is not the only computer, they will find out.

cheers,
David Tse

simon@ivem1.ucsd.edu (Simon) (05/03/91)

In article <1991May01.213205.8415@disk.uucp> specter@disk.uucp (Byron Max Guernsey) writes:
>Anyway what ticked me off is that in the "Letters" section of the issue I saw
>someone wrote in and asked what computer they should get to start their child
>off in graphics and animation. (They said the kid was about 12 or 13) The
>editor (or whoever answers the letters) replied and said that he should get
>an IBM (of all machine!) and said that he will need at least a 386 and a
	^^^
>postscript compatible laser printer...etc... Jeez this guy is nuts. 


For a 12-13 year old?!  >^D   But laser printer, hmmm... 8^J 


>
>I started writing a letter to the magazine displaying my disgust with it and
>to ask why he did not suggest an amiga with ALL of its animation programs
>and virtually endless graphics expandability, but then I decided it wasn't worth
>my effort...the letter would probably not appear...and I would have wasted
>27 cents for a stamp and 20 minutes of my own time. 


27 cents? It's 29 cents here in CA.  Anyway, you should'of.  Maybe they
would have printed it, maybe not. But who cares.  It's always better to
put the effort in and spread the word on the Amiga.


>time reading, and the most uninformed suggestion of the year. If you seriously
>want to get into animation and graphics I would suggest an amiga 3000 or 2000
>with speed enhancements, some 3-d rendering and ray tracing software (I like
>Turbo Silver, but Sculpt-4d is supposed to be better), an animation program->
>animagic by aegis would be nice...there are others of course, and later you
>could buy one of those 24 bit display boards...(HAM-E, CD_TV?, ColorBurst, etc)
>and of course for fun...a genloc! or even a toaster! 


For a 12-13 year old?!   :^}  What a nice father!!!


>
>Jeers to compute!

Here here...

>
>Byron
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-Simon
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kajihara@mcnc.org (Scott "Lord of Sith" Kajihara) (05/03/91)

In article <1991May2.090105.14324@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1503@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) writes:

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>The magazine was sold to OMNI (I heard), and from then on they dropped 
>coverage on other platforms including Amiga, Atari ST, C64 etc.
>
>MS-DOS/IBM is not the only computer, they will find out.
>
>cheers,
>David Tse

Correction to this remark:  what they did was to change the multi-system
COMPUTE! and the associated system specific magazines into numerous
IBM/<other-system> magazines.  Newstands only carry one (?) of these, but the
others are available by subscription.

     Scott Kajihara

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