roy_even@hannibal.hsn.no (Roy Even Slettvik) (06/21/91)
I think the Amiga computers are *great*, and now I want to get some information about Commodore Business Machines International (CBMI) and the national sections (TNS) like CCN (Commodore Computers Norway). I want to know how the company has developed, where it stands today, and where it might go in the future. Here is a list of the things I would like to get some information about:
- Who ownes CBMI and TNS (companies and private shareholders?)
- Info about the company which manufactures the chips CBMI uses in their computers.
(It is named Commodore Semiconductor Group).
- Which companies are owned by CBMI and TNS?
- Which companies does CBMI and TNS co-operate with?
- Number om employees in total and in each national section.
- How many employees works with the Amiga?
- marketshares at international and national levels.
- CATS.
- How the share prices has developed since CBM was established.
- Other economic information, annual accounting, annual reports etc.
- How CBMI and daughtercompanies are organized. Names, location, functions, departments etc.
- I've read that 6 marketing gurus were employed by CBM to work in Commodore Marketing International. This company was established in 1989 after plans made by Peter Bayley (the manager of CMI) and Irving Gould. CMI is situated in Hammersmith, London, and it's a
marketing centre which should strengthen the weak points in CBM's marketing strategy. Does anyone have any information about this department and what they have done?
- Dates for the release of CBM's products.
- Salesfigures from around the world.
- How many products have been sold? Computers, HDs, genlocks, accelerators etc.
- I've read that 55% of CBM's income comes from the Amiga section! How many percent of the Amiga-income are made up by A2000, A-this and A-that?
- How many CBM64s and A500, A1000, -> A3000T have been sold?
- When were the 0.5, 1, 1.5, and 2 million marks for Amigasales passed?
- When will the 2.5 and 3 million mark be passed :-)?
- How is the worldwide distribution of the installed base of Amigas? I know the figures for three big countries: USA abt. 400 000 macines, England 250 000+, Germany 300 000.
- Which equipment does the average and majority of amiga-users own, and what are the systems used for?
- I would like to read some books, reports and researches from CBM or others that can answer these questions and give me some information about CBM, their products, their market, their strategy, etc.
- Is it possible to get a copy of market analysis and organization analysis CBM has made for
themselves?
- The history of the company, when it was established, by whom, what they produced before computers (calculators and typewriters?), etc.
- I would also like to get some more information about the amiga's father Jay Miner, the company Amiga Inc. and the first version of the Amiga (It had another name which I don't remember now. Brain overflow error :-).
I know that much of this information can be confidential and difficult/impossible to spread to the public. I don't believe that a single person out there in Netland has got the answers to all the questions, but I'd be glad to get a survey of what information and sources that are available. Please state any references, addresses and prices you might have on books and other sources.
As I'll be going for a holiday in some days, I'll be glad if a copy of
the answer sent to this group could be e-mailed to me. Thanks in advance!
e-mail:roy_even@hannibal.hsn.no
or
roy_even@stud.hsn.no
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_________________________________________________________________________cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (06/23/91)
Good luck and happy hunting! Commodore International is the parent
company of all of the subsidiaries. It is based in the Bahamas.
Actually Commodore is incredibly complexly laid out primarily
to take advantages of world tax laws. I don't know if Norway
as an equivalent to the US Securities and Exchange commission
if so they would be a good place to start too.
(Don't get discouraged, I've talked to people at Commodore who
don't know all of it :-), I gave up long ago trying to figure out
all of the tendrils)
--Chuck
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--Chuck McManis Sun Microsystems
uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: <none> Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM
These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
"I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"roy_even@hannibal.hsn.no (Roy Even Slettvik) (06/26/91)
A while after I had sent article number 4382 to this group, I got
some answers. thank you kam hung soh for commenting my long lines.
I'll try to avoid that in my next articles :-). I have edited the linelenght and some of the questions and included the article below. I'll post a summary to this group in some weeks!
I'll try to combine all the answers and thereby get a total view of CBM's development. Therefore it's important that they are answered as fully as possible. If you have other information than I've requested, that will also be appreciated.
By the way, I would be pleased if some one could answer my
questions in article number 4223. Give me a brief presentation of
your favourite Amiga magazine. (I already know; Amiga World, Amiga
User International, Amiga Computing and Amiga Format. I'm *most*
interested in information about German and Australian mags, but
all info is good info :-).
Quotet from article number 4382:
I think the Amiga computers are *great*, and now I want to get
some information about Commodore International and the national
sections (TNS) like CCN (Commodore Computers Norway). I want to
know how the company has developed, where it stands today, and
where it might go in the future. Here is a list of the things
I would like to get some information about:
1. Who ownes Commodore International (CI) and TNS (companies and
private shareholders, names, how much do they own?)
2. Info about the company which manufactures the chips CBM uses
in their computers. (It is named Commodore Semiconductor Group).
3. Which companies are owned by CI and TNS?
4. Which companies does CI and TNS co-operate with? I've heard that
CBM sells a laserprinter with their logo, but which isn't manufactured by them.
5. Number om employees in total and in each national section.
6. How many employees works with the Amiga?
7. The growth in marketshares at international and national levels
during the last years.
8. CATS, organization, location, number of employees, projects
they work with, offers.
9. How the share prices have developed since CBM was established.
Has anyone got a list/file with these prices. Can anyone provide
a printout from a stock analyst program or a analyse report?
10. Other economic information, annual accounting, annual reports etc.
11. How CI and daughtercompanies are organized. Names, location, functions, departments etc.
12. I've read that 6 marketing gurus were employed by CBM to work in
Commodore Marketing International. This company was established
in 1989 after plans made by Peter Bayley (the manager of CMI)
and Irving Gould. CMI is situated in Hammersmith, London, and
it's a marketing centre which should strengthen the weak points
in CBM's marketing strategy. Does anyone have any information
about this department and what they have done?
13. Dates for the release of the A-products CBM has produced.
14. Salesfigures from around the world.
15. How many products have been sold? Computers, HDs, genlocks, accelerators etc.
16. I've read that 55% of CBM's income comes from the Amiga section!
How many percent of the Amiga-income are made up by A2000,
A-this and A-that?
17. How many CBM64s and A500, A1000, -> A3000T have been sold in
total and in each country?
18. How is the worldwide distribution of the installed base of
Amigas? I know the old figures for three big countries: USA abt.
400 000 macines, England 250 000+ and Germany 300 000
19. When were the 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 and 3 million marks for
Amigasales passed?
20. When will the 3.5 and 4 million mark be passed :-)?
21. Which computer and extra hardware does the average and majority
of amiga-users own, and what are the systems used for?
22. I would like to read some books, reports and researches from
CBM or others that can answer these questions and give me some information about CBM, their products, their market, their
strategy etc.
23. Is it possible to get a copy of market analysis and
organization analysis CBM or others have made?
24. The history of the company, when it was established, by whom,
what they produced before computers (calculators and type-
writers?), etc.
25. I would also like to get some more information about the
amiga's father Jay Miner, the company Amiga Inc. and the first
version of the Amiga (It had another name which I don't remember
now. Brain overflow error :-).
I know that much of this information can be confidential and
difficult/impossible to spread to the public. I don't believe
that a single person out there in Netland has got the answers to
all the questions, but I'd be glad to get a survey of what
information and sources that are available. Please state any
references, addresses and prices you might have on books and
other sources.
As I'll be going for a holiday in some days, I'll be glad if a copy of
the answer sent to this group could be e-mailed to me. Thanks in advance!
e-mail:roy_even@hannibal.hsn.no
or
roy_even@stud.hsn.no
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