jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) (02/14/91)
I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of
the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the
time. Can this be done? How?
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jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Here's the line from my startup-sequence: LoadWB delay newshell newcon:0/10/580/190/CreeperDOS This actually doesn't open up a full screen, but just enough so you can still get at your WB disk icons, and still see the title bar. For one that covers the whole screen, use something like this: newshell newcon:0/0/640/200/CreeperDOS Where CreeperDOS is the name of the window. The other params are pretty obvious -- Matt Ranney "There are a few occasions where you do t22918@ursa.calvin.edu need to use a 'GOTO'... but... well mranney@wybbs.mi.org you didn't just hear me say that." mranney@pogo.ai.mit.edu -Dr. Joel Adams
kevin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Kevin Klop) (02/14/91)
In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Sure can: assuming 1.3: newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). -- Kevin -- Kevin Klop {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!kevin Commodore-Amiga, Inc. ``Be excellent to each other.'' - Bill and Ted's most excellent adventure Disclaimer: _I_ don't know what I said, much less my employer.
jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) (02/14/91)
jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Yes, use the WINDOW option on NewShell. something like newshell window con:0/0/640/400/MyShellWindow will do ya just fine -joe porkka ps. (Watch out for the Net.Police!) you may want to trim your .signature to be 2 to 3 lines max.
bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Brian Heil) (02/14/91)
From article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu>, by jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW): > I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of > the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the > time. Can this be done? How? > > If you open the shell by clicking on the Shell icon, you may need to filezap the cli program in c: to change the settings... Look for a line in the ascii that looks like this newcon:/0/50/100/640/AmigaShell (I'm not really sure about those numbers though). Change the numbers to read 0/0/200/640. You may be to set these in the Info window using the parameters there (keys?), I'm not because I'm a shell kinda guy :\ -- Brian Heil ) University of Iowa bheil@scout-po.biz.uiowa.edu ( College of Business Administration bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu ) Computing Services Organization AMIGA There is no substitute!
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (02/14/91)
In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Should be explained in your manual at the NewShell command. Click once on the Shell icon, call the "Info" menu item ("Information" for OS 2.0) and add a Tool Type line: WINDOW=newcon:0/0/640/200/MyShell (for 1.3) WINDOW=con:0/0/640/200/MyShell/CLOSE (for 2.0) The CLOSE option for 2.0 gives you the Shell window with a close gadget. Eventually you must choose smaller coordinates (those 640 and 200), if the border is counted with them, you may experiment a bit with these values. -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (02/14/91)
In article <t22918.666484382@ursa> t22918@ursa.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney) writes: >jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) writes: > >>I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >>the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >>time. Can this be done? How? > >Here's the line from my startup-sequence: > >LoadWB delay >newshell newcon:0/10/580/190/CreeperDOS > >This actually doesn't open up a full screen, but just enough so you can still >get at your WB disk icons, and still see the title bar. For one that covers >the whole screen, use something like this: Exactly (nearly: 570 instead of 580 plus more height because of PAL) what I use under 1.3. You have access to the disk icons and see the title bar with the memory display. Recommended. -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
ianr@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Ian ROWLANDS) (02/14/91)
In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? I believe there are ways to do it, but I use a different technique to those mentioned. I use a program called Climax. It opens a shell/cli on a seperate screen, to a full 80x25 display (more on a PAL system). I like the fact it is on a seperate screen, so you can display icons on the Workbench screen and still have access to a full screen CLI. This program is available on a Fish disk, somewhere between 420 and 430. Get it! Ian Ian Rowlands | Uni : ianr@ee.mu.oz.au Dept. of Electrical Engineering, | OR ..!uunet!mullian.ee.mu.oz.au!ianr (including Computer Science) | Home : ianr@gpark.pub.uu.oz.au University of Melbourne | OR ..!uunet!gpark.pub.uu.oz.au!ianr
andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (02/14/91)
In article <4408@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Brian Heil) writes: >From article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu>, by jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW): >If you open the shell by clicking on the Shell icon, you may need to filezap >the cli program in c: to change the settings... Look for a line in the ascii >that looks like this > newcon:/0/50/100/640/AmigaShell >(I'm not really sure about those numbers though). Change the numbers to read >0/0/200/640. You may be to set these in the Info window using the parameters >there (keys?), I'm not because I'm a shell kinda guy :\ Well, actually, you would probably just use Workbench INFO, and change the WINDOW= tooltype of the shell icon, rather than filezapping the CLI program. Something like: WINDOW=NEWCON:0/0/640/200/AmigaShell would work nicely. >Brian Heil ) University of Iowa andy -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "God was able to create the world in only seven days because there was no installed base to consider." Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
scot@amigash.UUCP (Scot L. Harris) (02/15/91)
>In article <4408@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Brian Heil) writes: >From article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu>, by jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW): >> I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >> the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >> time. Can this be done? How? > >If you open the shell by clicking on the Shell icon, you may need to filezap >the cli program in c: to change the settings... Look for a line in the ascii >that looks like this > newcon:/0/50/100/640/AmigaShell >(I'm not really sure about those numbers though). Change the numbers to read >0/0/200/640. You may be to set these in the Info window using the parameters >there (keys?), I'm not because I'm a shell kinda guy :\ > >-- >Brian Heil ) University of Iowa If you select the shell icon and then pick the INFO menu item you can set the size of the shell window (or the cli window for that matter) by putting an entry in the TOOL TYPES field. Add something like the following to the TOOL TYPES: WINDOW=NEWCON:0/1/640/100/AmigaShell The first two numbers are the x y position of the top left corner and the next two numbers are the width and height of the window. You may also use the STACK=40000 or however big you want the stack to be for your shell windows. So there is no reason to filezap this stuff on the Amiga, you can configure it how you want through normal methods. -- _ /// /_\ Scot L. Harris ...!tarpit!bilver!amigash!scot \XX/ / \ M I G A Orlando, FL (407)273-1759 [Falcon Mission Disk II. Must be great, haven't gotten any work done for days]
Walt@orbit.Amiga.OCUnix.On.Ca (Walt Sullivan) (02/16/91)
>In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Your signature is too big - it almost convinced me not to respond. Please consider shrinking it. I open my CLI windows (I'm using ARP's AShell) with: AShell "CON:0/0/640/400/AShell_for_Walt" in my s:Shell-Boot (called from s:Startup-Sequence). If you want to change the size of the CLI started by clicking the icon, try adding "WINDOW=CON:0/0/640/400/CLI" to the tooltypes (select the icon, then choose "info" from the workbench menu). I haven't tried it, but sys:system/CLI contains the following strings: execute s:Shell-Startup WINDOW STACK NEWCON:0/50/640/80/AmigaShell CON:0/50/640/80/New Cli Window s:Shell-Startup s:CLI-Startup I hope this helps. -- Walt Sullivan walt@orbit.Amiga.OCUnix.On.Ca Fido 1:163/109.4 None of what I say is what my employer says, ever! Am I still confused if I'm not, but only THINK I'm confused?
bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Brian Heil) (02/16/91)
Tool Types... thats what I was looking for. Didn't mean to cause any undo
stress in suggesting filezap! Like I said I'm a CLI kinda guy (well okay
SKsh), I don't use WorkBench very much. I will say that I would if I had 2.0
though. Looks great.
Was the option to change window through Tool Types always there? If I remember
correctly the info window changed in V1.2, was it in there at that time?
--
Brian Heil ) University of Iowa
bheil@scout-po.biz.uiowa.edu ( College of Business Administration
bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu ) Computing Services Organization
AMIGA There is no substitute!vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com (02/16/91)
In article <18942@cbmvax.commodore.com> kevin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Kevin Klop) writes: > >assuming 1.3: > > newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell > >will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). > Mind if I butt in? :-) What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:. Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget! Thanks for any help! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Quella, vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com Somehow, someday, we need Just One Victory, and we're on our way ____________________________________________________________ - Rundgren ___
t22918@ursa.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney) (02/16/91)
vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com writes: >>assuming 1.3: >> >> newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell >> >>will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). >> >Mind if I butt in? :-) >What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:. >Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget! I don't have 2.0 myself, but in 1.3 there is no close gadget on the shell window either. If you want to kill it you have issue an endcli command. -- Matt Ranney "There are a few occasions where you do t22918@ursa.calvin.edu need to use a 'GOTO'... but... well mranney@wybbs.mi.org you didn't just hear me say that." mranney@pogo.ai.mit.edu -Dr. Joel Adams
dac@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au (Andrew Clayton) (02/16/91)
In article <14578@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com>, vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com writes: > In article <18942@cbmvax.commodore.com> kevin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Kevin Klop) writes: > > > >assuming 1.3: > > > > newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell > > > >will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). > > > > Mind if I butt in? :-) > > What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:. > Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget! I think you need to add a /close to the end of the string. Don't know if this works, and not currently prepared to find out. :-) > Dan Quella, vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com Dac -- _l _ _ // Andrew Clayton. Canberra, Australia. I Post . (_](_l(_ \X/ Send mail to dac@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au . . I am.
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (02/18/91)
In article <14578@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com writes: >> >> newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell >> >>will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). > >What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:. newcon: is indeed gone. You have all you want in con: >Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget! Try .../400/Shell/CLOSE -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) (02/19/91)
In <899@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes: >In article <14578@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com writes: >>> >>> newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell >>> >>>will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes). >> >>What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:. >newcon: is indeed gone. You have all you want in con: >>Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget! >Try .../400/Shell/CLOSE >-- I am able to run 'Newshell=con:0/0/640/400/SHELL/CLOSE' and get the desired results, (YES, "CLOSE" does indeed give you a close gadget :-)) but how can I get the system shell (via the icon) to do this? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it IBM compatiable? NO - ARE YOU? - FUSION - FUSION - FUSION -FUSION -FUSION -FUSION -FUSION -FUSION -FUSION - Domain: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark Nagel) Voice: +1 206 356 5098 UUCP: microsoft!fluke!mark or sun!fluke!mark Snail: John Fluke Mfg. Co. / P.O. Box C9090 / Everett WA 98206 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lkollar@tridom.uucp (Larry Kollar (Operations)) (02/19/91)
In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >time. Can this be done? How? Several people have pointed out the "con:0/0/640/200/Title" thing. I once wrote a little program that would get the actual Workbench screen size & return it as "640/200" or whatever. Handy if you use ARP Shell, SKsh, or another shell that supports "embedded" commands. For example, the opening line would be: > newshell con:0/0/$(screensize)/Title The shell runs "screensize," then inserts the output in the command line before executing the command. This is nice for people who pass scripts around, or for 2.0 users who can change screen size on the fly (I'm sure *someone* will correct me if I'm wrong about that :-). The code is very trivial; I could post it to c.b.a if anyone is interested. -- Larry Kollar ...!emory!tridom!lkollar / lkollar@tridom.uucp
andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (02/20/91)
In article <1991Feb19.143219.15684@tridom.uucp> lkollar@tridom.UUCP (Larry Kollar (Operations)) writes: >In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >>I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >>the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >>time. Can this be done? How? > >Several people have pointed out the "con:0/0/640/200/Title" thing. I once >wrote a little program that would get the actual Workbench screen size & >return it as "640/200" or whatever. Handy if you use ARP Shell, SKsh, or >another shell that supports "embedded" commands. For example, the opening >line would be: > > > newshell con:0/0/$(screensize)/Title > >The shell runs "screensize," then inserts the output in the command line Under 2.02 Shell you can use the backticks, ie newshell "con:0/0/`screensize`/title" and the screensize program will execute and output gets added to the command line. Also, the 2.02 con-handler does a max operation on your window parameters, so con://2000/2000/Title will generally give you a full screen window under 2.0; unless you are using an unusual monitor. You can even (by copying the shell project icon and adding the WINDOW= tooltype) make shell window icons for all occasions. >-- >Larry Kollar ...!emory!tridom!lkollar / lkollar@tridom.uucp andy -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "God was able to create the world in only seven days because there was no installed base to consider." Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
rmm20@ccc.amdahl.com (Robert Mitchell) (02/22/91)
In article <Walt.2754@orbit.Amiga.OCUnix.On.Ca> Walt@orbit.Amiga.OCUnix.On.Ca (Walt Sullivan) writes: >>In article <3265@ux.acs.umn.edu> jrosnow@vx.acs.umn.edu (JOHN ROSNOW) writes: >>I was wondering how to have the shell open up so that it is the full size of >>the screen rather than opening it up and then having to resize it all of the >>time. Can this be done? How? > >Your signature is too big - it almost convinced me not to respond. Please >consider shrinking it. > >I open my CLI windows (I'm using ARP's AShell) with: > > AShell "CON:0/0/640/400/AShell_for_Walt" > Just a little note: when I purchased my 2320, I immediately switched over to interlaced 640/400 (Great job Scott!). I ran happily until I needed to use my bridgeboard, and discovered that Janus croaks badly on an interlaced screen. I switched my profile back to non-interlaced and rebooted. I was VERY chagrined to discover that my shell would not open (not 400 lines), and workbench would not load because of the prior failure. Can you say "No way to get there from here"? Moral: keep a maintenance floppy around to service your hard disk files. And consider keeping your startup general enough to work on a non-interlaced window. - Robert Mitchell -- UUCP: rmm20@juts.ccc.amdahl.com DDD: 408-746-8491 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 205, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 BIX: bobmitchell
burton@latcs1.oz.au (J Anteloupas D. Bronzo.) (02/22/91)
In <899@cbmger.UUCP>,
I could have sworn peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) managed to say:
+In article <14578@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> vfg2@phx.mcd.mot.com writes:
+>>
+>> newshell newcon:0/0/640/400/Shell
+>>
+>>will open up a 640 x 400 shell with its window title as "Shell" (no quotes).
+>
+>What about 2.0? My 3000 doesn't recognize newcon:.
+
+newcon: is indeed gone. You have all you want in con:
+
+>Should it? If I open a shell with con: it has no close gadget!
+
+Try .../400/Shell/CLOSE
+
+--
+Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions...
+Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Since this is now a major discussion here's my bit...
I use a little utility that I picked up from a BBS called FullWindow.
it seems to do something like poke new values into the window definition
structure and then refresh the window. This will cause the window fill the entire
workbench screen...
BIG DEAL, SO WHAT,
why do I bother
James Burton.