Lee Sailer <UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> (05/06/91)
The best to learn C depends A LOT (enough so that "alot" requires TWO WORDS!) on what you already know. C is a language very unforgiving of simple mistakes, errors, and bugs, so the more ways you have of avoiding them the better. If you are already an expert programmer in a language more forgiving than C, such as Pascal, Modula 2, or Oberon, then you should be able to teach yourself C. There are even languages "harder" than C, such as Bliss. If you are NOT already pretty proficient in some safer language, then the fastest way to learn C is to learn a safe language first. REALLY! Learn Modula 2, or Pascal, or Oberon. There are reasonable to excellent compilers in both the PD and commercial market. After 6 months, you can convert to C in a few weeks. lee
soh@andromeda.trl.OZ.AU (kam hung soh) (05/09/91)
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >If you are NOT already pretty proficient in some safer language, then >the fastest way to learn C is to learn a safe language first. REALLY! >Learn Modula 2, or Pascal, or Oberon. There are reasonable to excellent >compilers in both the PD and commercial market. After 6 months, you >can convert to C in a few weeks. Learning Pascal and changing to C can be a traumatic experience, since the novice programmer is removed from a safe, well-defined environment and plunged into a site-dependent horror. I believe a background in assembly might be more suitable, especially when it comes to the use of pointers, arrays and parameter passing. Better still get C++; the user can program block-structured code and avoid a lot of the common pitfalls found in C. The C++ compiler will do a lot of work that the UNIX ``lint'' utility used to do, such as typechecking and warnings about uninitialised variables or unreachable code. When one becomes proficient in C, migrate to C++ and embrace object-oriented programming (apologies to Eiffel advocates) without too much pain. Unfortunately, C++ compilers are not very common for the Amiga yet. Regards, --------------- Soh, Kam Hung email: h.soh@trl.oz.au tel: +61 03 541 6403 Telecom Research Laboratories, P.O. Box 249, Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia
labben@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Bodin) (05/10/91)
In article <1991May9.010822.14660@trl.oz.au> soh@andromeda.trl.OZ.AU (kam hung soh) writes: >UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: [stuffdeleted] >Better still get C++; the user can program block-structured code and >avoid a lot of the common pitfalls found in C. The C++ compiler will >do a lot of work that the UNIX ``lint'' utility used to do, such as >typechecking and warnings about uninitialised variables or unreachable >code. A short comment... C++ compilers have a better typechecking than most C compilers, but both Lattice C and SAS/C _does_ check for uninitalised variables and unreachable code! Also SAS/C has the best (most user-friendly) programming environment I have ever seen on any machine I have worked with, which should make it easier for the beginner to use the compiler. [more stuff deleted...] >Soh, Kam Hung email: h.soh@trl.oz.au tel: +61 03 541 6403 >Telecom Research Laboratories, P.O. Box 249, Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia Greetings, Lars Bodin. -- AMIGA // Lars Bodin // Department of Mathematics & Computer Science, \\// University of Aalborg (AUC) \/ E-mail: labben@iesd.auc.dk