xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (01/09/91)
Welcome to comp.unix.amiga!
The new newsgroups have arrived! Use them in good health!
Please try to get your conversations sorted out into the new groups
as quickly as possible, by editing the Newsgroups: and Followups-To:
lines on everything you post for the next few weeks. After that,
things should take care of themselves.
This is the spot to talk about AmigaUX, Amiga specific question about
MINIX, and any other Unixy stuff. Try to keep _everything_ concerning
Amiga Unix in this group; if the programming and similar concerns create
a lot of traffic, it is much better to split this group than to confuse
the existing .programming group with traffic unconnected to the ongoing
AmigaOS discussions there.
I hope the many AmigaUX beta sites will enable their users to post
here, we need a lot more traffic about ongoing experiences with
Amiga Unix. Share experiences and grow together.
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/// for me: why
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<xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us> \XX/ anything less?
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In article <1991Jan8.213408.25592@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes:
This is the spot to talk about AmigaUX, Amiga specific question about
MINIX,
Ok, I'll let my ignorance and lack of current knowledge about
available Amiga software show: does MINIX exist for the Amiga yet & if
so where do I get summaries of functionality, availability etc.
---George Jones
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Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes.peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (01/10/91)
In article <GEORGE.91Jan9081353@killer-tomato.cis.ohio-state.edu> george@tut.cis.ohio-state.eduGeorge M. Jones <george@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: > Ok, I'll let my ignorance and lack of current knowledge about > available Amiga software show: does MINIX exist for the Amiga yet Yes. > & if so where do I get summaries of functionality, availability etc. comp.os.minix, where there are many people already running it. There is also a periodic information posting (Everything you wanted to know about MINIX on the networks...) that will give you all the ordering information you want. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
jmw@sdchemg (John M. Wright) (01/10/91)
In article <GEORGE.91Jan9081353@killer-tomato.cis.ohio-state.edu> george@tut.cis.ohio-state.eduGeorge M. Jones <george@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: > >Ok, I'll let my ignorance and lack of current knowledge about >available Amiga software show: does MINIX exist for the Amiga yet & if >so where do I get summaries of functionality, availability etc. > >---George Jones And on comp.os.minix, hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson) writes: > I had one question but since my copy of Amiga Minix isn't here yet I have >two :-) I ordered AmigaMinix from PH early November and was sent a letter a >few weeks later telling that it would arrive in December. The first question >is: are there problems with Amiga Minix that it is being held back? Has >anybody else that ordered it in November received it? Amiga Minix exists. Here is a short piece of the periodically-posted announcement from comp.os.minix: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. WHAT IS MINIX 1.5 MINIX 1.5 is a new version of an operating system that is very similar to UNIX. MINIX has been written from scratch, and therefore does not contain any AT&T code--not in the kernel, the compiler, the utilities, or the libraries. For this reason it can be made available with the complete source code (on diskette). It runs on the IBM PC, XT, AT, PS/2, 386, and most clones. Versions are also available for the Atari ST, Macintosh, and Amiga. 2. MINIX 1.5 FEATURES (IBM, Macintosh, Atari, and Amiga versions) - System call compatible with V7 of the UNIX operating system - Full multiprogramming (multiple programs can run at once) - Kernighan and Ritchie compatible C compiler - Shell that is functionally identical to the Bourne shell - Five editors (emacs subset, vi clone, ex, ed, and simple screen editor) - Over 175 utilities (cat, cp, ed, grep, kermit, ls, make, sort, etc.) - Over 200 library procedures (atoi, fork, malloc, read, stdio, etc.) - Spelling checker with 40,000 word English dictionary - Full source code (in C) supplied on diskettes (OS, utilities, libraries) - Easy-to-read manual telling all about MINIX and how to install and use it 4. HARDWARE REQUIRED - Amiga: Commodore Amiga 500 or 2000 with at least 1M of RAM. One 720K diskette drive is sufficient. A hard disk is not required (or even supported). To use a hard disk with the Amiga, someone familiar with how this disk works will have to write a driver for it. If this driver is then posted to the net, it will be possible to use a hard disk with MINIX on the Amiga. 9. HOW TO ORDER MINIX 1.5 MINIX 1.5 is being sold by Prentice-Hall. The product numbers and prices are as follows: - MINIX 1.5 for the Amiga (0-13-585043-6) $169 Sales tax and shipping are extra; Prices are slightly higher outside the U.S. In North America and the Far East To order by email: books@prenhall.com To order by FAX: (201) 767-5625 To order by phone: (800) 624-0023 or (201) 767-5969 To order by mail: Microservice Customer Service Simon & Schuster 200 Old Tappan Road Old Tappan, NJ 07675 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From my own experience, I would *not* recommend purchasing Minix by email. There is some, but relatively little, discussion of Amiga Minix on comp.os.minix. I have no idea how this new amiga.unix group will mesh with comp.os.minix; a lot of crossposting, I would imagine. (That's what I'm doing, anyway. :-) Now for a few nitty-gritty details about Amiga Minix that might not be obvious from the announcement: A) The Minix kernel file on essentially all of the original PH distribution disks has unrecoverable errors. Fortunately, they included a backup copy, and apparently now the package has a sticker warning that you must use minix.img.bu instead of minix.img when you create your working boot disk. B) There are some bugs in the original version of Amiga Minix which cause it to trash both the disk buffers and screen memory if you have more than 512 K of chip ram. A fix for this has been posted to comp.os.minix by Steven Reiz. C) Even after the above fix is applied, there are some problems with the Amiga Minix file system on floppies. Floppy disks go bad with "unrecoverable read errors" with distressing frequency. This is *not* due to Minix crashing or being shut down without properly sync'ing. D) Amiga Minix will not yet run on a 680[2,3]0 processor. E) Amiga Minix does not yet support any hard disk drives. (A call for beta testers of a driver written for the A590 was just posted on comp.os.minix.) F) Amiga Minix cannot yet use an interlaced screen. Someone else asked if Amiga Minix was usable on an A500 with one meg of ram and two floppies. From my own experience, the floppy file system is more stable and things work better in general on my daughter's 500 (with 512 K chip) than on my B2000 with one meg of chip ram. John Wright Chemistry, B-014, UCSD, La Jolla, CA 92093 jmw@chem.ucsd.edu jwright@ucsd (619) 534-3049
hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Adam Hill) (01/10/91)
There is a version of MINIX for the Amiga. Contact Prentice Hall or
ask in the .minix conference. Tannenbaum reads it. It is version 1.5 and
is approx 150.00US retail. It is the full implementation, takes over the
Amiga and has NO HD support.
Beyond that I know nothing, nothing at all. :-)
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