fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) (01/17/91)
I have been wondering about the version of the OPEN LOOK window manager and especially the OPEN LOOK toolkits available for the Amiga 3000/UX. - Is the window manager supplied the one developed by AT&T, or is it the OPEN LOOK window manager developed by Sun and used in Open Windows as well as in the X distribution available from MIT and the X Consortium? - A number of OPEN LOOK toolkits for X has been implemented. One, under various names at various times (sigh) from AT&T, one called OLIT from Sun, and one called XView, also from Sun. The AT&T toolkit and OLIT are based on the X Toolkit Intrinsics, while XView has an API resembling SunView. Which of these are supplied with AMIX (or whatever it's called)? The toolkit part is especially important. Lots of software has been or is in the process of being written with XView. The fact that XView is available free means that lots of people have adopted it. This is especially so for University projects. /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | Life is hard, and then you die. CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | - The Immaterial
jac@gandalf.llnl.gov (James A. Crotinger) (01/20/91)
fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) writes: > one called > OLIT from Sun, and one called XView, also from Sun. The AT&T toolkit > and OLIT are based on the X Toolkit Intrinsics, while XView has an > API resembling SunView. Which of these are supplied with AMIX (or > whatever it's called)? OLIT is AT&T's toolkit, not Sun's. Sun does ship a version of it with Openwindows 2.0. The version Sun ships looks to be considerably less mature than XView (and I have yet to see any software that uses it). > /Lars Jim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- James A. Crotinger Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab // The above views jac@gandalf.llnl.gov P.O. Box 808; L-630 \\ // are mine and are not (415) 422-0259 Livermore CA 94550 \\/ necessarily those of LLNL.
jcb@frisbee.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Becker) (01/23/91)
amanda@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen) writes: >>>>> On 20 Jan 91 00:36:30 GMT, jac@gandalf.llnl.gov (James A. >>>>> Crotinger) said: jac> OLIT is AT&T's toolkit, not Sun's. OLIT is Sun's name for the toolkit AT&T used to call Xt+, but now call OPEN LOOK. There is cooperation on OLIT development between the two companies. It is a joint effort. Confused? OPEN LOOK is the user interface design, not the implementation. OLIT (formerly XT+) and XView are implementations of OL. -Jim Becker -- -- Jim Becker / jcb%frisbee@sun.com / Sun Microsystems
amanda@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen) (01/23/91)
Followups directed to comp.windows.open-look.
>>>>> On 22 Jan 91 22:20:41 GMT, jcb@frisbee.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Becker) said:
Jim> OPEN LOOK is the user interface design, not the implementation. OLIT
Jim> (formerly XT+) and XView are implementations of OL.
Yes, that is the answer one gets from Sun, and it makes the
distinction between the UI and the toolkit clear. However, AT&T
insist on calling both the UI and the toolkit for OPEN LOOK in their
press releases, and does not mention OLIT.
While the "formerly XT+" toolkit may be a joint effort between Sun and
AT&T, they seem unable to agree on the name.