gwaldron@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU (Glenn Waldron) (04/05/91)
What is the equivalent to a UNIX internet "talk" command using a VMS system??? Need an answer soon... Thanks, Glenn. Glenn A. Waldron Virginia Tech E-Mail: gwaldron@gnu.ai.mit.edu
jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) (04/09/91)
In article <9104050136.AA01908@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> gwaldron@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU (Glenn Waldron) writes: >What is the equivalent to a UNIX internet "talk" command >using a VMS system??? > >Need an answer soon... Thanks, Glenn. PHONE username But.... it does not network to unix TALK. It may (but I dunno) network to another PHONE over decnet.
dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) (04/09/91)
In article <1991Apr8.180232.1158@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) writes: >In article <9104050136.AA01908@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> gwaldron@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU (Glenn Waldron) writes: >>What is the equivalent to a UNIX internet "talk" command >>using a VMS system??? > >PHONE username > >But.... it does not network to unix TALK. >It may (but I dunno) network to another PHONE over decnet. Talk is a TCP/IP-based interactive conversation program. PHONE is a similar product offered by DEC for their VMS systems that uses DECnet. DECnet and TCP/IP just don't deal with each other. However, several companies (including Multinet and Excelan) make TCP/IP networking products for VMS. I know that the Multinet software comes with a talk command as part of its included command set. The only gotcha is that it doesn't work with some hosts (most notably those that run SunOS it seems). --Daryl Biberdorf, dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu Texas A&M University
johnhlee@CS.Cornell.EDU (John H. Lee) (04/09/91)
In article <1991Apr8.180232.1158@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) writes: >In article <9104050136.AA01908@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> gwaldron@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU (Glenn Waldron) writes: >>What is the equivalent to a UNIX internet "talk" command >>using a VMS system??? >> >>Need an answer soon... Thanks, Glenn. > >PHONE username > >But.... it does not network to unix TALK. >It may (but I dunno) network to another PHONE over decnet. PHONE over DECnet works fine. I've PHONEd to a co-worker on another machine at another plant site in another city just fine. Just use the DECnet name, node_name::account. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DiskDoctor threatens the crew! Next time on AmigaDos: The Next Generation. John Lee Internet: johnhlee@cs.cornell.edu The above opinions of those of the user, and not of this machine.
jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel MOYNE) (04/11/91)
In article <14354@helios.TAMU.EDU> dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes: > However, several companies (including Multinet and Excelan) make TCP/IP > networking products for VMS. I know that the Multinet software comes > with a talk command as part of its included command set. The only > gotcha is that it doesn't work with some hosts (most notably those > that run SunOS it seems). One of the problems with talk is that it has a byte-order dependency. I.e.: If your machine is a SUN (68k or SPARC are both LO-HI (big endian)), you won't be able to talk to let's say a VAX running Ultrix (or VMS, but with multinet). Typically you see: Waiting for invitation on caller's machine forever. So, if you're on a SUN you can speak to 68k based systems, and if you're on a VAX or a DECstation you can speak to intel based systems (and to IBM's RSs too), since DECstations are using MIPS chips, I guess you can talk to MIPS based systems too (haven't tried it tho). JNM --- #include <std/disclaimer.h> JNM: jnmoyne@lbl.gov
himacdon@maytag.uwaterloo.ca (Hamish Macdonald) (04/12/91)
>>>>> On 11 Apr 91 02:45:04 GMT, >>>>> In message <11975@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, >>>>> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel MOYNE) wrote: Jean-Noel> One of the problems with talk is that it has a byte-order Jean-Noel> dependency. I.e.: If your machine is a SUN (68k or SPARC Jean-Noel> are both LO-HI (big endian)), you won't be able to talk to Jean-Noel> let's say a VAX running Ultrix (or VMS, but with multinet). Jean-Noel> Typically you see: Waiting for invitation on caller's Jean-Noel> machine forever. Are you not speaking of BSD4.2 talk (a.k.a Sun talk?). BSD4.3 talk has no such problems. I can talk between 68K Suns, Sparc Suns, Sequents (i386), Vaxen, Mipsen, Ultrix Mipsen etc. no problem with 4.3 talk. Jean-Noel> So, if you're on a SUN you can speak to 68k based systems, Jean-Noel> and if you're on a VAX or a DECstation you can speak to Jean-Noel> intel based systems (and to IBM's RSs too), since Jean-Noel> DECstations are using MIPS chips, I guess you can talk to Jean-Noel> MIPS based systems too (haven't tried it tho). MIPS chips can be big-endian or little-endian. Ultrix makes them little endian (like the VAX) and MIPS makes them big-endian. Hamish. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- himacdon@maytag.uwaterloo.ca watmath!maytag!himacdon
bqt@cia.docs.uu.se (Johnny Billquist) (04/12/91)
In <1991Apr8.180232.1158@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jap@convex.cl.msu.edu (Joe Porkka) writes: >In article <9104050136.AA01908@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> gwaldron@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU (Glenn Waldron) writes: >>What is the equivalent to a UNIX internet "talk" command >>using a VMS system??? >> >>Need an answer soon... Thanks, Glenn. >PHONE username >But.... it does not network to unix TALK. >It may (but I dunno) network to another PHONE over decnet. Yup, you do: PHONE [<machine>::]<username> You can also check who is available by DIR [<machine>::]