[comp.dcom.fax] Fine mode in Group III faxes - SUMMARY

jonathan@cs.pitt.edu (Jonathan Eunice) (04/13/91)

I recently posted:

|  I read in the May, 1991 MacUser that Group 3 faxes have a Standard
|  resolution of 203x98 dpi, and a Fine resolution of 203x196 dpi.  The
|  sample shown (p. 107) makes Fine look *much better* than Standard.  Do
|  most standalone fax machines support the Fine resolution?  I've
|  received a fair number of faxes, and I can't recall any that looked
|  anywhere near as good as MacUser's example.  Is this just because no
|  one is using Fine mode, or is it because it hasn't been available on
|  many fax machines?


Quick summary of responses: 

Almost all recent fax machines, and probably all computer fax modems,
support Fine mode.  It does cost more and take longer to use becuase of
the extra data sent.  People don't use it for the extra cost, the extra
time, and perhaps most often, because it's not the default setting on
many fax machines so people don't know/think to use it.  Most
respondents seem to agree that imaging in the computer, rather than
scanning a document, is as important/more important than the
Fine/Standard mode.  PostScript (and by extension, similar imaging
techniques such as ATM) are considered a big win.


Thanks to all who responded.  Here are the detailed responses, slightly
edited:


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From: hqm@ai.mit.edu (Henry Minsky)

Almost every fax machine supports Fine resolution: Of course, computer
generated fax images look MUCH better than scanned data. 


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From: troby@diana.cair.du.edu (Thorn Roby)

My impression is that most machines made in the last two years have
fine mode, but most people don't select it either because it takes
too long or they don't know about it. The transmitting machine must
be set in fine mode, then the receiving machine responds whether it
can handle it. Also be aware that the improvement will be much more
obvious in material which is generated electronically (e.g, text
converted to fax format without ever being optically scanned).


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From: "Michael J. McInerny" <mcinerny+@andrew.cmu.edu>

Most people send faxes in standard or "draft" mode because that's what
the fax machines default to.  Most fax machines can send and receive in
fine mode, but you have to push a button to make it send in fine mode. 
And, we all know that people are stupid and/or lazy, and that's why the
button doesn't get pushed.

Of course, there are those who know how to push the fine mode button,
but choose not to because fine mode takes longer (50-100%) and costs
more.  And, we all know that people who are not stupid and/or lazy are
likely to be cheap, the "Fine" button still doesn't get pushed.

On our e-mail --> fax gateway, the CCITT G3 pages are precomputed, and
cannot be changed on the fly.  Since we use PostScript to image the
pages, they are imaged at 200dpi for clarity.  This increases
transmission time, but results in excellent output (you've never seen a
fax so good!).

Personally, when I need to send a fax, I try to send it in fine mode,
just for clarity's sake.  I want my copy to look good on the other end,
for a good impression.

I think that if people saw how shitty their output looked, more would
opt for the "Fine" mode.


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From: wdr@wang.com (William Ricker)

The faxes I've sent have sometimes gone out Fine, sometimes Normal,
because I forget to check what the machine is set to when I dial.
(Well, when I sent the Accident diagram to *my* agency, I made sure to
set it to fine, since they'd be re-sending it... and Nyquist would
trash it if they re-faxed a Normal at Normal!)  Your phonebill will
about double if you send about twice as many bits... even if
compression helps, you're paying the telco (if direct analog dial
rather than packet switched future) equal amount for dead-air while
waiting for paper to slide through.  It did take longer to transmit the
same accident report at Fine than at Normal, so if *I* were responsible
for the long-distance bill, I'd probably be petty & ban Fine
transimission by long-lines except where the "art" necessitated it.
Since the FAX I used ocasionally is usually used to send to India,I'm
not surprised the usually use Normal.

Greshams law in effect, perhaps?  If people do not insist on the very best,
they won't get it.  (Converse of Maugham's observation.)


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From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen J. Friedl)

     I write computer fax software for a living, so I think I am
pretty qualified to talk about this :-)

     I don't think I've ever seen a Group 3 fax machine that didn't
support fine mode, and surely all computer faxes support it.  Fine
mode does take twice as long to send as standard mode (twice as many
scanlines) but the increased clarity can make quite a difference.

     Note that the clarity of computer fax is not so much due to fine
mode as it is to the rasterization of the characters.  When you fax
a sheet of paper, the pixels go where the scanner happens to put them,
but the computer can put them where they *really* need to go.  This
makes a huge difference in quality, and with a well-designed font, you
can't detect any difference between fine and standard resolutions.  The
best fax font I've seen is Fujitsu's[*] Roxbury font.  Of course, doing
PostScript-to-fax will knock your socks off.

[*] = we sell Fujitsu's fax modem, so I guess I'm biased, but *nobody*
      has such a good font for fax.