cloader@kean.ucs.mun.ca (12/08/90)
Has anyone done a port of ELVIS .. vi clone to the Archimedes. I ask because I use vi on UNIX and MSDOS at work but !edit at home. There are times when I wish I could use vi at home if only to save confusion. Charles Loader Memorial University charles@munucs.ucs.mun.ca
gtoal@tharr.UUCP (Graham Toal) (12/15/90)
In article <27601FD3.6C20@tct.uucp> chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >According to bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker): >> I most adamantly protest this notion - whatever >> the outcome of the vote, I will keep feeding >> unix-pc, and crossposting everything. I recommend >> this to everyone on general principles. > >Before anyone takes Mr. Becker seriously, remember that he also >"adamantly protested" the rmgroup of alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork. > >For some reason, the phrase "Consider the source" comes to mind. >-- [Mr. Becker, please do not take the following as a flame - this is intended to be constructive in nature - i.e. I'm not sitting here spewing steam or anything.] [I post this because I think Mr. Becker is not the only one who needs to hear this. Just whoooooo could that/they be, you ask? ;-)] I guess I do take Mr. Becker seriously in one sense. His approach makes things go less smoothly than they could. Bruce's attitude is representative of the inherent problem in causing groups to actually go away despite rmgroup'ing. I wish we had a purely technical solution to the problem, but we don't. We must rely on cooperation. It would be better if Bruce would simply "get with theprogram" and be willing to abide by the "wave of opinion", even if it is not consistent with the view he holds. To Bruce/others sharing his view: You must be willing to take the losses with the wins. Argue your side the best you can - but STAY WITH THE ARGUMENT. Please don't inject such "If I lose I won't play anymore" phrases into things. It is detrimental to the argument(s) on both sides, as it takes focus off the subject at hand and moves the parties into "dig the heels in" mode. We then run the risk of making poorer decisions, because it becomes "us vs. them" instead of "is it the right thing to do?". As long as your inputs are percieved as constructive in intent, they are valuable and deserve consideration. Please do your best to make them so. I'm sure you have (and will have) many ideas that are of value to us all. It would be a shame to see them ignored. Believe you me, I'm Mr. Argument if you ever ran into him. I'll fight for my position VERY strongly at times. But when it's over, I know (I hope) how to live with it and move on. And I (try to) never take it personally (this is a key lesson in life, I think!). [Whoops! For a second there, I was drifting back into Philosophy 101 mode. Better quit before I drift too far! :-)] Rick =========================================================================== Rick McCarty 12501 Research Boulevard Texas Instruments Incorporated P.O. Box 149149, MS 2227 Information Technology Group Austin, Texas 78714-9149 mccarty@aaet.csc.ti.com (512) 250-4108 ===========================================================================