[comp.sys.acorn] uuencoded binaries

patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) (01/09/91)

Today I received several identical (automatic?) messages
from mathew@mantis.co.uk.

Rather than be charged for replying via e-mail I would like to
bring the subject up in this group again -- Who (apart from
Mathew) objects to posting of uuencoded files?

> To: patrick@sideways.gen.nz
> Subject: Re: Grapevine Comms program (part 01/03)
> From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
> Message-Id: <50ZeV3w163w@mantis.co.uk>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 91 17:40:27 GMT
> Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
>
> Please do not post large encoded binaries to a discussion group.

From the mail message header Mathew is using a PC or Unix box
running Waffle UUCP software to get a feed from the ibmpcug
site.  So perhaps he objects to long postings because he is
paying on a per-minute basis for the telephone call?

Presuming I have guessed right, I think the majority of people
would prefer it if binary postings continue.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Perhaps someone (Mathew?)
could put out a CFD on comp.binaries.acorn?


pat
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gtoal@tharr.UUCP (Graham Toal) (01/09/91)

In article <ZBBHV1w163w@sideways.gen.nz> patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
>> From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
>> Please do not post large encoded binaries to a discussion group.

You mean comp.sys.acorn.d ?  *This* isn't a discussion group -- it's an 
everything group.  However I do sympathise a bit with your point.
Why not everyone just post sources to alt.sources with a pointer here
so we know it has been posted?  (and why not stay in bed the day
you feel like posting binaries :-)  [I hate binaries, I do. Nasty
selfish things])

Graham

PS Obligatory unsubstantiated rumour: has anyone else heard talk of putting
transputer-like links on the arm for multi-processor systems?
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johny@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Lord Yak Da Hairy) (01/09/91)

In article <ZBBHV1w163w@sideways.gen.nz> patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
>Does anyone have any suggestions?  Perhaps someone (Mathew?)
>could put out a CFD on comp.binaries.acorn?

I did, a while ago. There's been some discussion (mostly on news.groups) but
I'm still not sure whether it would pass a vote or not. I'd like binaries
postings to continue, but in their own group if possible. This _should_ keep
everyone happy...

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mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (01/10/91)

patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
> Today I received several identical (automatic?) messages
> from mathew@mantis.co.uk.

Not automatic.

> Rather than be charged for replying via e-mail I would like to
> bring the subject up in this group again -- Who (apart from
> Mathew) objects to posting of uuencoded files?

Oh, that's cute. You're unwilling to pay to reply to mail *you* don't want,
but you still think we should pay for binaries *we* don't want! :-)

> From the mail message header Mathew is using a PC or Unix box
> running Waffle UUCP software to get a feed from the ibmpcug
> site.  So perhaps he objects to long postings because he is
> paying on a per-minute basis for the telephone call?

Yup. The half-a-megabyte one before Christmas was the proverbial straw which
broke the proverbial camel's proverbial back. Proverbially.

> Presuming I have guessed right, I think the majority of people
> would prefer it if binary postings continue.

I think otherwise. Why don't you post to news.groups and say "I'd like to
post binaries to a discussion group -- does anybody care?", and we'll see
if you get any replies. Hehehe.

> Does anyone have any suggestions?  Perhaps someone (Mathew?)
> could put out a CFD on comp.binaries.acorn?

I'll do a CFD if you want, just to get rid of the bloody binaries. I'll even
write the CFV. I won't run the vote, however, for reasons which should
(I hope) be obvious.


mathew.

rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) (01/11/91)

gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) writes:

>_This_is_not_a_discussion_group._ This is a general acorn group.

*This***IS***a*discussion*only*group*.  From the official
call-for-votes on comp.sys.acorn, as it was posted a few months ago:

|This is the official Call For Votes (CFV) for comp.sys.acorn.
|
|NAME
|
|	comp.sys.acorn - worldwide unmoderated discussion of topics related to
|			 machines based on the Acorn RISC Machine and machines
|			 sold by Acorn.

Hence, comp.sys.acorn is for discussion only.  I have posted a CFV on
comp.binaries.acorn yesterday, which will undoubtebly appear soon in
news.announce.newgroups, and also in this group.  I suggest everybody
to vote FOR that group, since voting against it is illogical, and not
voting is stupid.

Tiggr

gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) (01/15/91)

rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes:
>gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) writes:

>>_This_is_not_a_discussion_group._ This is a general acorn group.

>*This***IS***a*discussion*only*group*.  From the official
>call-for-votes on comp.sys.acorn, as it was posted a few months ago:

>|	comp.sys.acorn - worldwide unmoderated discussion of topics related to
>|			 machines based on the Acorn RISC Machine and machines
>|			 sold by Acorn.

Sorry. My conception of comp.sys.acorn was that it would be more or less the
same as eunet.micro.acorn, but as the charter says it isn't, let us all vote
for comp.binaries.acorn .

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SCST86@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (01/15/91)

Hi There,
   I agree that people should continue to post binaries for the Arch. The
problem seems to be 'where?' I'm very new to the Usenet stuff, but I understand
the problem arises with the maximum bandwith of the network(?) So is there any
system that is propared to run as a server for these files and just mail them
to people when they ask for them? I remember reading about a system run by
Newcastle Uni? If this is the right kind of system why not mail you file to
them and then leave a message describing the file an telling us what it's
called on the Newcastle machine.
   This would cut back on the bandwidth quite a bit and should keep Mathew
happy. B-)

   Also could one of you net-wizard chaps explain to me what all these 3 letter
abrevs mean eg. CFV....

   Sorry for my ignorance, but I HAD to ask!

Yours.....
Jason. (I left my .sig file in my other system!!!)