vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) (01/07/91)
Okay, I realise that Arc (32-bit) users now make up the majority of Acorn users in this group, so how about this... ALL 8-bit related postings have somewhere in the subject line "8-bit". Then those who aren't interested can filter them out using their kill files. An alternative is a separate newsgroup, but I'm not sure the traffic would justify it... Daniel Bowen, starving Beeb owner. -- Raymond Luxury-Yacht | WE WISH YOU A MERRY SULTANA | "Languages.... sounds a.k.a. DANIEL BOWEN |-------------------------------| a bit like sandwiches.." MONASH UNIVERSITY, | vac122g@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au | [R.Redpath, Lecturer, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA |vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au | Computer Tech, Monash]
gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) (01/08/91)
vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes: >ALL 8-bit related postings have somewhere in the subject line "8-bit". >Then those who aren't interested can filter them out using their kill >files. Let's propose some more: binary Archimedes encoded binary source Archimedes (encoded or plain) source I feel at least "binary" is necessary. As an Electron user, i *do* like to read most articles about the Arc, but i can't do anything with those binaries, so i just don't want to see them. So PUHLEEEEEEZE, it's so simple. They're quite boring to read :-). When posting 8-bit sources or binaries, better mark them just "8-bit". I certainly wouldn't want to miss those...! - Gerben -- --- Gerben Vos - Aconet: BIGBEN!Gerben Vos - Internet: gpvos@cs.vu.nl "While you are here, your wives and girlfriends are dating handsome American movie and TV stars. Stars like Tom Selleck, Bruce Willis, and Bart Simpson." -- Baghdad Betty
quan@sol.surv.utas.oz (Stephen Quan) (01/08/91)
vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes: >Daniel Bowen, starving Beeb owner. Me too. The mileage of my beeb has just about gone.
patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) (01/09/91)
vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes: > > Okay, I realise that Arc (32-bit) users now make up the majority > of Acorn users in this group, so how about this... Okay, I think it would be great to see some 8bit programs here. There are quite a few 8bit BBC owners on this site who would be interested. How about developing a BBC version of uuen/decode? In NZ we use a program that merges BBC files into one, preserving the load/exec addresses, that may be useful especially if non-source is going to be posted. -- Patrick Cain, Private Box 2060, Wellington, New Zealand.
gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) (01/09/91)
patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes: >How about developing a BBC version of uuen/decode? In NZ we use a >program that merges BBC files into one, preserving the load/exec >addresses, that may be useful especially if non-source is going to be >posted. In the Netherlands, we use two programs which arc and unarc files. The programs are called Xarc and ArcRom (both are Rom images). ArcRom is a bit buggy for large files, but they work quite adequate. They are compatible with both Messy-DOS Arc 5.1 and !Spark (at least 1.00), but I'm not sure that there is a provision for load/exec addresses. My solution usually is to include a file "ExecMe" which changes the load/exec addresses when *EXEC'ed. If there is interest, i'll have a try at posting them (using Unix uuencode). - Gerben
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) (01/09/91)
gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) writes: > vac122g@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes: > >ALL 8-bit related postings have somewhere in the subject line "8-bit". > >Then those who aren't interested can filter them out using their kill > >files. > > Let's propose some more: > binary Archimedes encoded binary > source Archimedes (encoded or plain) source > > I feel at least "binary" is necessary. As an Electron user, i *do* like > to read most articles about the Arc, but i can't do anything with those > binaries, so i just don't want to see them. Binaries belong in a binaries group, as any Usenet old-timer will tell you. If you all want to see binaries for Acorn machines, go propose a suitable group. The instructions are posted in news.announce.newusers. Otherwise if I keep seeing binaries in this discussion group I'll just stop our whole site from getting it. It's not worth our time or money to download large executable files for a machine we don't have. There are lots of other sites out there inhabited by people who feel the same way (i.e., UUCP sites.) If you don't want to lose a lot of readers, you'd better separate the binaries out of this newsgroup. Alternatively, you could use eunet.micro.acorn for the code and this group for the discussion. I'm not sure if Eunet groups are supposed to follow the "no binaries in a discussion group" restriction which is generally followed on mainstream Usenet. mathew.
cstaqdb@warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes) (01/09/91)
In article <DF9gV4w163w@sideways.gen.nz> patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes: > >Okay, I think it would be great to see some 8bit programs here. There >are quite a few 8bit BBC owners on this site who would be interested. >How about developing a BBC version of uuen/decode? In NZ we use a >program that merges BBC files into one, preserving the load/exec >addresses, that may be useful especially if non-source is going to be >posted. > I agree wholeheartedly about posting BBC listings here, and I have some that I may post myself, although they are rather long, so some form of compression would be useful. Perhaps the program mentioned could be posted to the net and then used as standard for 8-bit postings. ============================================================================ Tom Hughes, CS1 thughes@uk.ac.warwick.cs Room 112 Compton Hall cstaqdb@uk.ac.warwick.cu Westwood University of Warwick (0203) 523523 X2927 Coventry CV4 8EE ============================================================================
patrick@sideways.gen.nz (Pat Cain) (01/12/91)
gpvos@cs.vu.nl (Gerben 'P' Vos) writes: > In the Netherlands, we use two programs which arc and unarc files. > The programs are called Xarc and ArcRom (both are Rom images). ArcRom is a > bit buggy for large files, but they work quite adequate. > They are compatible with both Messy-DOS Arc 5.1 and !Spark (at least 1.00), > but I'm not sure that there is a provision for load/exec addresses. > My solution usually is to include a file "ExecMe" which changes the > load/exec addresses when *EXEC'ed. > > If there is interest, i'll have a try at posting them (using Unix uuencode). > I'm interested, any version of uuencode except the Archimedes one should be fine.. I didn't realise there was a rom version of Arc for the beeb. Thanks. -- Patrick Cain, Private Box 2060, Wellington, New Zealand.
csf195@cck.cov.ac.uk (Mirrir) (01/24/91)
In article <1991Jan9.125607.29920@warwick.ac.uk> cstaqdb@warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes) writes: >> >I agree wholeheartedly about posting BBC listings here, and I have some that I >may post myself, although they are rather long, so some form of compression >would be useful. > >Perhaps the program mentioned could be posted to the net and then used as >standard for 8-bit postings. I also agree, Tom, but at the moment I can't transfer stuff from system to BBC Disc or back, as disc drives have been removed from the only system connected Beeb's at this poly. What I'm really looking for at the moment is a Colour printer Dump progy that works on a Master 128 printing to a Star LC-10 Colour printer. ANY ONE GOT ONE THAT IS Public Domain !!!!????? Thanks -- ____________________________________________________________________________ | Jason Taylor (csf195@uk.ac.cov.cck) | "That's all fine, but I only need to | | Aliases : ALIEN (Slartibartfast) | know one thing." -Aliens (Vasquez) | | Stliaise (stliaise@uk.ac.cov.cck) | 'Yes?' - "Where they ARE." |
csuaw@warwick.ac.uk (01/28/91)
In article <1991Jan24.143419.17464@cck.cov.ac.uk> csf195@cck.cov.ac.uk (Mirrir) writes: > > I also agree, Tom, but at the moment I can't transfer stuff from system > to BBC Disc or back, as disc drives have been removed from the only > system connected Beeb's at this poly. > How do people do this ? There is a beeb here connected into the network with a disk drive . it has lancs.KERMIT ROM in it as well as Acorns terminal ROM, but I HAVE (as yet ) failed to get anything succesfully transfered to DISK ! Thanks for any help, Patrick -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Patrick Clark | | 'You'd have to get up University of Warwick | patrick@uk.ac.warwick.cs | pretty early to catch Coventry , CV4 7AL | | you out Micheal '