kortink@.cs.utwente.nl (John Kortink) (03/16/91)
About Arcterm 7 (is Hugo listening ?)
A friend of mine bought this, and I have had a thorough look.
It is a real relief to be able to work in the desktop like
with any other app. The script language is another one of its
good points.
There are several serious shortcomings though :
- There is no facility for spooling what goes on on your terminal.
This is really bad. It should be dead easy to add this.
- There is no facility to scroll back (i.e. get a 'history').
Harder to add (Hearsay cheats by updating on character boundaries,
and memory is short on 1Mb machines, but it should be possible to
make the terminal window sprite larger.
Both functions can be found in Hearsay, and I use them extensively.
The utilities disc is a disaster really. None of the apps would work,
!TransArc giving procedure parameter errors (and indeed, the BASIC
program is simply utterly wrong), the other utils conplain about an
unknown filing system (Filer_Opendir used with system variable, we
don't all use RISCOS 3 !!!).
How about it Hugo ? Or have these already been added/corrected.
John Kortink
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------altman@tharr.UUCP (Hugo Fiennes) (03/21/91)
Re: ARCterm 7 >There are several serious shortcomings though : > >- There is no facility for spooling what goes on on your terminal. > This is really bad. It should be dead easy to add this. There is. Look in the manual, it is clearly documented, you can have 2 spoolfiles open concurrently and either save raw data or plain text. >- There is no facility to scroll back (i.e. get a 'history'). > Harder to add (Hearsay cheats by updating on character boundaries, > and memory is short on 1Mb machines, but it should be possible to > make the terminal window sprite larger. There is (on Release II) a 256-line history window (you cannow 'scroll back' the main window however, and the history is in black & white only, but you can select, save, print, send chunks of the buffer). >The utilities disc is a disaster really. None of the apps would work, >!TransArc giving procedure parameter errors (and indeed, the BASIC >program is simply utterly wrong), the other utils conplain about an >unknown filing system (Filer_Opendir used with system variable, we >don't all use RISCOS 3 !!!). There must be some mistake. !TransArc is not supplied with ARCterm, and only one of the utilites supplied is in basic, and all work on all machines tested (from A3000's to A540's). It sounds much like your friend has either got a pirate copy (but some things are puzzling, ARCterm has always had a spool facility), or it has got modified on the way. Wierd! Hugo -- Hugo Fiennes --------------------------------------------------------------- -- "HAL, you're not IBM compatible..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <-- tharr *free* public access to Usenet in the UK 0234 720202 -->
kortink@utis96.cs.utwente.nl (John Kortink) (03/24/91)
In article <1950@tharr.UUCP> altman@tharr.UUCP (Hugo Fiennes) writes: >Re: ARCterm 7 > >>There are several serious shortcomings though : >> >>- There is no facility for spooling what goes on on your terminal. >> This is really bad. It should be dead easy to add this. > >There is. Look in the manual, it is clearly documented, you can have >2 spoolfiles open concurrently and either save raw data or plain text. Who reads manuals :-). Sorry, I'll tell him (if he's not read the manual already. >>- There is no facility to scroll back (i.e. get a 'history'). >> Harder to add (Hearsay cheats by updating on character boundaries, >> and memory is short on 1Mb machines, but it should be possible to >> make the terminal window sprite larger. > >There is (on Release II) a 256-line history window (you cannow 'scroll >back' the main window however, and the history is in black & white >only, but you can select, save, print, send chunks of the buffer). Well, his version must be release I then. Thanks for adding it ! >>The utilities disc is a disaster really. None of the apps would work, >>!TransArc giving [...] > >There must be some mistake. !TransArc is not supplied with ARCterm, >[...] >It sounds much like your friend has either got a pirate copy (but some >things are puzzling, ARCterm has always had a spool facility), or >it has got modified on the way. Wierd! No need to be paranoid. He's got the real thing, and I will be buying a copy soon. The utilities disc was amended by himself (he himself uses RISCOS 3, and added !TransArc), which I would have found out if I asked. I hope I have not been too naughty in making a copy for myself to evaluate... Another thing : it keeps de-selecting his modem (a Discovery 2400e) after a dial ! Which driver should be chosen, and why are you f**kin around with the modem's DTR ? John Kortink ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Student of Informatics at the University of Twente, The Netherlands MAIL : kortink@cs.utwente.nl DISCLAIMER : you know .... "It's a one time thing It just happens Suzanne Vega ('Cracking') a lot" ---------------------------------------------------------------------