[comp.sys.novell] Novell Tape Backup and Emerald

dixon@pdn.paradyne.com (Tom Dixon) (01/24/91)

I have a question for the Novell admins out there....

Does anyone make a 8mm tape backup system for novell that supports the
soon to be available Exabyte 8500 which stores 5g on each tape?  Is
anyone working on it?

We currently are using the Emerald Systems EmSave system.  Has anyone
else noticed that they are selling Exabyte 2.5 g drives that list for
about $2500 for $5000?  When we asked them about it, they got pretty
defensive.  They also claim that if you don't use their tapes, they
won't be responsible for the results.  They sell the same TDK's I buy
for <$10 for closer to $50.  I have always felt they are being a bit
greedy.

The real problem we have is that it takes about 18 hours to backup
4gigabytes.  They have told us that this is normal.  Our Suns back up
to a generic Exabyte at about 1g/hour, so I am a bit surprised that it
takes Novell 4.5hours/gig.  Especially since we only paid half as much
for the drive on the Suns.  ;-)

Does anyone have a solution to 8mm tape backup on Novell that they
really like?  I would love to hear about it.




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karinc@isc.intel.com (Karin Coffee) (01/26/91)

In article <1991Jan24.130509.29145@pdn.paradyne.com> dixon@pdn.paradyne.com (Tom Dixon) writes:
>I have a question for the Novell admins out there....
>
>Does anyone make a 8mm tape backup system for novell that supports the
>soon to be available Exabyte 8500 which stores 5g on each tape?  Is
>anyone working on it?
>
I just ordered a 2.2g Exabyte drive from Exabyte.  I ordered the software 
from Palindrome.  The complete system from Palindrome (drive and software)
was about $2000 more than buying the drive direct from Exabyte, and Palindrome
advertises that they use the Exabyte drive.

Anyway, I'll let you know how it works.  Anything has to be better than
swapping 8 tapes into the Mountain Tape screaming tape drive to get a complete
backup of the data files.  :-)

>Does anyone have a solution to 8mm tape backup on Novell that they
>really like?  I would love to hear about it.


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brian@cimage.com (Brian Kelley) (01/29/91)

In article <1114@intelisc.isc.intel.com> karinc@isc.intel.com (Karin Coffee) writes:
>In article <1991Jan24.130509.29145@pdn.paradyne.com> dixon@pdn.paradyne.com (Tom Dixon) writes:
>>I have a question for the Novell admins out there....
>>
>>Does anyone make a 8mm tape backup system for novell that supports the
>>soon to be available Exabyte 8500 which stores 5g on each tape?  Is
>>anyone working on it?
>>

>>Does anyone have a solution to 8mm tape backup on Novell that they
>>really like?  I would love to hear about it.

Just don't buy a system from Emerald.  We are finally getting rid of ours :-)
We've decided to go with TNA from Palindrome also.  I feel the TNA software
is rather overpriced and it definitely has it's problems, but I feel it is
better than anything else I've seen and I like the idea that they separate the
drive from the software (after all, it's just an Exabyte!) 


For TNA problems: try backing up a read only filesystem or a WORM; the TNA
software *must* create a \TNA directory on the volume to hold your indices :-(
Palindrome doesn't have a fix.  Maybe in some future release, they say...


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