kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) (01/26/91)
Someone answer me this: Let's say I have a network setup using 10baseT wiring all over the place. All my PCs are using packet drivers so that they can talk to the novell file server and telnet/ftp/rlogin/rsh elsewhere. I throw in a bunch of macs using Ethertalk over the same wiring and using a Mac VAP/NLM to the novell server. How are these macs going to know to use ethernet II type 8137 to talk to the server? OR Is there some card out there for the server that will deal with my problem? Bob -- Bob Kusumoto | Find the electric messiah! Internet: kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu | The AC/DC God! Bitnet: kusumoto%chsun1@uchicago[.bitnet] | - My Life with the Thrill Kill UUCP: ...!{oddjob,gargoyle}!chsun1!kusumoto | Kult, "Kooler than Jesus"
alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) (01/29/91)
In article <1991Jan25.230229.6596@midway.uchicago.edu>, kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) writes: |> ... |> |> How are these macs going to know to use ethernet II type 8137 to talk to the |> server? OR Is there some card out there for the server that will deal |> with my problem? |> ... They don't. Macs talk Appletalk to the NLM/VAP, which translates to NetWare protocols. The bridge or server that the VAP/NLM is running on needs to have its NIC ECONFIGed, of course, but you've already done that. Alan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alan Medsker Viewlogic Systems, Inc. Voice: (508) 480-0881 293 Boston Post Road West Fax: (508) 480-0882 Marlboro, MA 01752 Internet: amedsker@Viewlogic.COM cc:Mail: Alan Medsker at Viewlogic CI$: 76376,662 BIX: amedsker 2 Meters: WB0SQR =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My opinions, of course. And don't hold me to them. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) (01/30/91)
alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) writes: >They don't. Macs talk Appletalk to the NLM/VAP, which translates to NetWare >protocols. The bridge or server that the VAP/NLM is running on needs to >have its NIC ECONFIGed, of course, but you've already done that. OK, we're going to be running packet drivers/NDIS with the -n option, so that it actually talks 803.2 (am I correct in saying this?) even though the BYU IPX shell will actually sent V2 packets. This pretty much eliminates the need to ECONFIG the server's Ethernet card(s). The question then becomes, how do macs sitting on the same Ethernet network using Ethertalk (which seems to be the way Apple seems to be pushing lately, macs using Ethertalk over Localtalk)? On a side note, what kind of ethernet packets are these Macs using with Ethertalk? V2 or 802.3 or something else? (If it's V2, then we dump the NDIS switch and ECONFIG the ethernet cards, ECONFIG a different ethernet card in the server to talk the correct type used in Ethertalk...) Bob -- Bob Kusumoto | I just come from the land of Internet: kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu | the sun/ from a war that must Bitnet: kusumoto%chsun1@uchicago[.bitnet] | be won in the name of truth. UUCP: ...!{oddjob,gargoyle}!chsun1!kusumoto | - New Order, "Love Vigilantes"
alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) (01/30/91)
I'm afraid I'm out of my league here... Maybe Russ Nelson could answer the specific packet driver/ECONFIG questions... Alan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alan Medsker Viewlogic Systems, Inc. Voice: (508) 480-0881 293 Boston Post Road West Fax: (508) 480-0882 Marlboro, MA 01752 Internet: amedsker@Viewlogic.COM cc:Mail: Alan Medsker at Viewlogic CI$: 76376,662 BIX: amedsker 2 Meters: WB0SQR =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My opinions, of course. And don't hold me to them. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=