[comp.sys.novell] packet drivers and Mac Ethertalk question

kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) (01/26/91)

Someone answer me this:

Let's say I have a network setup using 10baseT wiring all over the place.
All my PCs are using packet drivers so that they can talk to the novell
file server and telnet/ftp/rlogin/rsh elsewhere.

I throw in a bunch of macs using Ethertalk over the same wiring and using a
Mac VAP/NLM to the novell server.

How are these macs going to know to use ethernet II type 8137 to talk to the
server?  OR  Is there some card out there for the server that will deal
with my problem?

Bob
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alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) (01/29/91)

In article <1991Jan25.230229.6596@midway.uchicago.edu>, kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) writes:
|> ...
|> 
|> How are these macs going to know to use ethernet II type 8137 to talk to the
|> server?  OR  Is there some card out there for the server that will deal
|> with my problem?
|> ...

They don't.  Macs talk Appletalk to the NLM/VAP, which translates to NetWare protocols. 
The bridge or server that the VAP/NLM is running on needs to have its NIC ECONFIGed, of
course, but you've already done that.

Alan

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kusumoto@chsun1.uchicago.edu (Bob Kusumoto) (01/30/91)

alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) writes:
>They don't.  Macs talk Appletalk to the NLM/VAP, which translates to NetWare
>protocols.  The bridge or server that the VAP/NLM is running on needs to
>have its NIC ECONFIGed, of course, but you've already done that.

OK, we're going to be running packet drivers/NDIS with the -n option, so
that it actually talks 803.2 (am I correct in saying this?) even though
the BYU IPX shell will actually sent V2 packets.  This pretty much eliminates
the need to ECONFIG the server's Ethernet card(s).  The question then becomes,
how do macs sitting on the same Ethernet network using Ethertalk (which
seems to be the way Apple seems to be pushing lately, macs using Ethertalk
over Localtalk)?  On a side note, what kind of ethernet packets are these
Macs using with Ethertalk?  V2 or 802.3 or something else?  (If it's V2,
then we dump the NDIS switch and ECONFIG the ethernet cards, ECONFIG a
different ethernet card in the server to talk the correct type used in
Ethertalk...)

Bob
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alan@curly.Viewlogic.COM (Alan Medsker) (01/30/91)

I'm afraid I'm out of my league here...  Maybe Russ Nelson could answer the specific
packet driver/ECONFIG questions...

Alan

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