leo@unipalm.uucp (E.J. Leoni-Smith) (02/08/91)
david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes: >Is it posible to get to a novell server from a unix workstation (386 SysV 3.2) Yes. Sort of. >1) What software do i need & how much At least a PC to act as a gateway. That PC needs to run TCP/IP and Netware concurrently. Some possibles:- 1/. Use FTP softwares PC-210 package with the BYU IPX and a packet driver to get this, and run their FTPSRV product on it. This will allow (one at a time I think) unix users to 'get' and 'put' files onto the Novell server. 2/. Use OS/2 and FTP softwares TCP/IP for OS/2. This supports telnet and rsh server daemons so that you can 'log in' to an OS/2 seesion and run OS/2 programs based on the Novell server!. You could also log in to the OS/2 and use the rcp command for file transfer. I haven't tested to see whether this supports inbound rcp from unix. 3/. Some peole are claiming good success using SOS (stans own server) - a public domain NFS server on a PC that runs over PC IP - all free from Clarkson university via anonymous ftp. E-mail info@ftp.com for details of local FTP software dealers. >2) What hardware is needed (Novell lan is in thinnet) Anything better than an NE1000 or a 3c501. Western Digital/3COM 3C503/Interlan 5210 etc.. >3) Does it work. I have customers using 1/. 2/. is as yet untried because I have not got Netware for OS/2 going yet. reports say that SOS works well - but its quite a hack to compile etc. >Scope of the job, > Progress database on a unix PC used for writing shift reports needs to >be accesable by others around the plant, labour list etc is on the novell lan, >the only user needing access to the novell lan is the operator on the PC, not >the remote users. Oh: Another possibility would be to use a separate ethernet card on the Unix PC and access it via a DOS MERGE (VP/IX) type setup that runs plain DOS netwrae IPX. Never heard of anyone trying it tho! >Please email suggestions, thanks. >Leon Bryant, BHP Rod & Bar Products Division, Newcastle, Australia >INTERNET: lmb@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au | Work: (049)402205 >UUCP: ...!uunet!cerberus.bhpese.oz!lmb | Home: (049)873272 >-- >David Masters, BHP Information Technology, Newcastle, AUSTRALIA. >Internet: david@bhpese.oz.au Phone: +61 49 402132
rbraun@spdcc.COM (Rich Braun) (02/10/91)
david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes: >Is it posible to get to a novell server from a unix workstation (386 SysV 3.2) Yes. I've been running a beta test of SOS, an NFS server for DOS, for about a week now. SOS has been around for a while but I concluded I needed some improvements to put it into use at my company. To join my beta test of this public-domain software, send email to me at rbraun@spdcc.com. Here are my answers to your questions, if you choose SOS as your solution: >1) What software do i need & how much You need the BYU/Clarkson packet drivers for your board plus CMU PC/IP and SOS for your system. (It's all available for ftp from sun.soe.clarkson.edu; my updates will soon be available for public consumption.) The cost is nothing. You also need Novell client software for the DOS gateway box. On your Unix system, you need NFS client software and TCP/IP. >2) What hardware is needed (Novell lan is in thinnet) You need a LAN card in your Unix box which is supported by its version of TCP/IP. You need a LAN card supported by Clarkson in the DOS gateway box. It can all be connected on one thin-net cable. >3) Does it work. Yes. Performance at this point is about 1.6 Mbytes/minute for reading off the Novell server and 1.0 Mbytes/min for writing to it; that may improve. The Novell server's files look to Unix applications like any other NFS server. Text files have a <CR> inserted after the newline, though. -rich
barr@frog.UUCP (Chris Barr) (02/10/91)
In article <1991Feb6.045402.8790@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au>, david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes: > > Is it posible to get to a novell server from a unix workstation (386 SysV 3.2) Among several vendors of 'Portable NetWare' for '386 Unix, at least one offers a client module: 'Ported Client NetWare': Interactive Systems Corp. I know that some others do NOT offer client functionality, e.g. Prime's EXL- based Unix NetWare. Portable NetWare offers file server functionality ONLY. Ported Client NetWare, operating in conjunction with their DOS emulation, VP/Ix, allows UNIX users 'access to services, files, and applications on NetWare servers'. I only know of this from their glossy marketing sheet. ISC 2401 Colorado Ave. Santa Monica, CA 800-346-7111
martino@logitek.co.uk (Martin O'Nions) (02/10/91)
leo@unipalm.uucp (E.J. Leoni-Smith) writes: >david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes: >>Is it posible to get to a novell server from a unix workstation (386 SysV 3.2) >Yes. Sort of. >>1) What software do i need & how much >At least a PC to act as a gateway. That PC needs to run TCP/IP and Netware >concurrently. Some possibles:- > 1/. Use FTP softwares PC-210 package with the BYU IPX and a packet > driver to get this, and run their FTPSRV product on it. This will > allow (one at a time I think) unix users to 'get' and 'put' > files onto the Novell server. > 2/. Use OS/2 and FTP softwares TCP/IP for OS/2. This supports telnet > and rsh server daemons so that you can 'log in' to an OS/2 seesion > and run OS/2 programs based on the Novell server!. You could also > log in to the OS/2 and use the rcp command for file transfer. I haven't > tested to see whether this supports inbound rcp from unix. > 3/. Some peole are claiming good success using SOS (stans own server) > - a public domain NFS server on a PC that runs over PC IP - all free > from Clarkson university via anonymous ftp. Another possibility would be Phil Karn's KA9Q product. That would give you an FTPD implementation, as per 1/ and 2/, and throws in IP routing and SMTP mail facilities as well. Still needs a PC though. Latest version available as .exe or source - compiles happily under Turbo C++. Martin -- DISCLAIMER: All My Own Work (Unless stated otherwise) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin O'Nions Logitek Group Support martino@logitek.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Auntie did you feel no pain / Falling from that willow tree? Could you do it, please again / 'Cos my friend here didn't see. (Harry Graham - Ruthless Rhymes for Heartless Homes)
kenh@techbook.com (Ken Haynes) (02/14/91)
>david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters) writes: >Is it posible to get to a novell server from a unix workstation (386 SysV 3.2) >1) What software do i need & how much NOVELL just announced NW version 3.11 that allows UNIX workstations to login to NOVELL servers. TCP/IP protocol stack support, OS/2 HPFS and finally MAC support. Available in April. Ken -- ****************************************************************************** Ken Haynes, Certified Netware Engineer Technical Support Product Mgr. 900 Support