edj@cbnewsj.att.com (edward.jung) (04/25/91)
Does anyone know if a user can change their login name temporarily without logging out? For example, I would love to be able to type su supervisor and mess around for a while and then get back to my old environment. I hate it when I'm in Windows or Desqview and someone say's "I messed up my password, can you fix it?" Ed Jung mtdcb.att.com!edj
keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) (05/08/91)
The News Manager) Nntp-Posting-Host: ca Reply-To: keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California References: <1991Apr24.204843.28241@cbnewsj.att.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1991 19:07:51 GMT In article <1991Apr24.204843.28241@cbnewsj.att.com> edj@cbnewsj.att.com (edward.jung) writes: > >I hate it when I'm in Windows or Desqview and someone say's > "I messed up my password, can you fix it?" > If you are running NetWare 3.X you might like to make yourself the "Workgroup Manager" of the various colleagues who are in the habit of forgetting their password. Being a workgroup manager gives you supervisory rights to those portions of the bindery which describe the entities (users) that you manage. This is a much underused feature of NetWare 3.X. This is a shame as I think it's one of the most useful. Keith - Keith Brown Phone: (408) 473 8308 Novell San Jose Development Centre Fax: (408) 433 0775 2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131 Net: keith@novell.COM
cmp8118@sys.uea.ac.uk (Dave Cartwright) (05/09/91)
keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) writes: >In article <1991Apr24.204843.28241@cbnewsj.att.com> edj@cbnewsj.att.com (edward.jung) writes: >> >>I hate it when I'm in Windows or Desqview and someone say's >> "I messed up my password, can you fix it?" >> >If you are running NetWare 3.X you might like to make yourself the >"Workgroup Manager" of the various colleagues who are in the habit of >forgetting their password. Being a workgroup manager gives you supervisory >rights to those portions of the bindery which describe the entities (users) >that you manage. A bit like making yourself Security Equivalent to SUPERVISOR in 2.xx, you mean ?? This is OK till you get the Powers That Be at your company saying "We Don't Want People Security Equivalent To Supervisor" (directors get all security minded at times, especially if they know nothing about computers and they just read about hackers in the Financial Times). The way I got round this was to write myself a batch file something like : SU.BAT SET SU=%LOGIN% LOGIN HAL\SUPERVISOR NOSU.BAT (well, you can't use EXIT can you) LOGIN HAL\%SU% SET SU= I also set LOGIN=%LOGIN_NAME in the System Login Script - it's ever so useful in all sorts of places so it's worth it. The only problem now is that you have to type in your own password when you do a NOSU. I know it's a bit naff, but it's quick to set up and it's easier than typing LOGIN HAL\SUPERVISOR every time someone comes to you with a supervisory request. Given a set of C libraries, obviously I could do better. One facility which would be nice is to allow SUPERVISOR to become any user, e.g. IAM DSCARTWR. This would enable the system manager to play about with applications that use Mail directories in their normal workings (e.g. ASCOM IV comms software ... it's impossible (well, just about) to add phone numbers to peoples' lists [which are stored in Mail directories] as SUPERVISOR. But that's just me being nitpicking again. Dave C -- Dave Cartwright, | cmp8118@sys.uea.ac.uk or uk.ac.uea.sys School of Information Systems, | uucp : ...!ukc!uea-sys!cmp8118 University of East Anglia, | "Reality is an illusion brought on by Norwich, ENGLAND. NR4 7TJ. | lack of alcohol ..."
lips@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (05/13/91)
In article <1991Apr30.190751.19877@novell.com>, keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) writes: > If you are running NetWare 3.X you might like to make yourself the > "Workgroup Manager" of the various colleagues who are in the habit of > forgetting their password. Being a workgroup manager gives you supervisory > rights to those portions of the bindery which describe the entities (users) > that you manage. Does this feature *really* work in Novell 3.X?? We've been running 3.10a for several months now, and the Workgroup Management aspects of the network fail to function *at all*. Needless to say, this has been moderately annoying, and I had all but given up on it. Have you been able to get this to work for you? If so, what version of Netware, server configuration, etc., have you been using? If this really *does* work, I'd very much like to get it up on our system. > This is a much underused feature of NetWare 3.X. This is a shame as I think > it's one of the most useful. I agree that it could be one of the most useful. Keeps me from having to be a SUPERVISOR equivalent when using the system. :) If anyone has information regarding the Workgroup Management situation, please EMail me. I'm dying to get over this hurdle. }lips ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric N. Lipscomb BitNet : LIPS@UNTVAX "Paradise is exactly like where you Inter : lips@vaxb.acs.unt.edu are right now. lips@toyshop.lonestar.org Only, much, *much* better." enlips@ponder.csci.unt.edu -- Laurie Anderson lipscomb@scs.chilton.unt.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
dws1010@helios.TAMU.EDU (David Smith) (05/14/91)
>> If you are running NetWare 3.X you might ...
Is there any kind of program or Utility out on the market that would emulate
the "su" that will run on Netware 2.15 ?? johnh@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (John Harris) (05/15/91)
In article <16195@helios.TAMU.EDU> dws1010@helios.TAMU.EDU (David Smith) writes: >>> If you are running NetWare 3.X you might ... > >Is there any kind of program or Utility out on the market that would emulate >the "su" that will run on Netware 2.15 ?? Perhaps I missed something, but why not just make a batch file called "su"? Or just use "login supervisor"? The only bummer is if you "logout" of the switched too user's account, you will not go back to the old user, but rather be logged out of the server. Contents of my "su.bat": @echo off if "%1" == "" goto super n:login %1 goto done :super n:login supervisor :done exit When I'm logined in as a user and what to "su" to supervisor, type "su" Just supply the password! If I'm logged in as supervisor and want to go back, type "su user" and supply a password. John Harris CAD Lab Supervisor Portland State University johnh@eecs.ee.pdx.edu