bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) (05/11/91)
Well, the Subject line makes this cry for help pretty obvious.
Does anyone have any experience setting up a Novell network so that
users can dial in via modem and use the software? Can it even be done?
We've been trying and have encountered all sorts of trouble.
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| Peace, knowledge, love and happiness." camargo@cs.columbia.edu (Francisco Camargo) (05/11/91)
My experience with dialing to a Novell 2.15 has been through Carbon Copy v4.5 (I think). It works well, and I guess that with 9600 Modems it may do wonders (I'm in process of getting the modems now... we still use 2400). But there is a problem: I cannot run Lotus 123 v3.1, risking losing my remote hard-disk. In fact, I did it once, and it was so painfull, that I won't try it anymore. The questions then are: WILL PCANYWHERE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ? WHAT ABOUT A NEW VERSION OF CC ? WILL SOME PRODUCT TAKE WINDOWS 3.0 ? WHAT ABOUT QEMM INTERFERENCE ? Wl, answers to these should settle the issue. BTW, nothing against the services that CC can provide. I have it running on a 286 machine, 24 hours a day, for already 2.5 years. Rarely I had to call someone to have the machine rebooted. Well, that was mostly due to call-waiting (disabled now), and before I had it set to reboot after disconnect. Works great, but we are growing... /Kiko camargo@cs.columbia.edu [One last question: Will PCAnywere accept a connection over a network bridge ?]
graham@octogard.UUCP (Graham Mainwaring) (05/11/91)
bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes: > Does anyone have any experience setting up a Novell network so that > users can dial in via modem and use the software? Can it even be done? It depends on just how ambitious you are. If you want a single-line dial in server, which can only have one user on at a time, you can run a program like pcAnywhere or Carbon Copy in dial-in mode. The users can then run programs on the dial-in machine, using their homw PCs as terminals. The programs don't run remotely, so there isn't any problem with trying to transmit big data files over the modem - you just transmit screen updates. If you want multiple lines, you can either have one machine per dial-in line, or you can try to do something with DesqView or Windows 3.0 to multitask several copies of pcAnywhere. It largely depends on which applications you want to run. Some applications don't respond well to a DesqView environment. Note - this all assumes that the applications you want to run are text-mode. While it is possible to do graphical applications with this sort of scheme, it is often glacially slow. It also assumes that the applications you want to run are, at least, only mildly misbehaved. If you have truly nasty applications (several popular 3270 emulators come to mind), you're just not going to make it work like this. If you can't get a pcAnywhere type solution to work, you're stuck with using a modem-to-LAN gateway, which actually transports your IPX packets across a dialup modem link. While this is (barely) tolerable if you're using a fast leased line, it's truly awful if your users have 2400-baud generic modems. However, (pretty much) anything that will run under NetWare will run in this mode. --- ...!nstar!octogard!graham (Graham Mainwaring) The Octopus's Garden BBS (919) 876-7213
bdahlen@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Robert L. Dahlen - U. of Denver USA=) (05/14/91)
In article <1991May10.203925.10586@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes: > > Well, the Subject line makes this cry for help pretty obvious. >Does anyone have any experience setting up a Novell network so that >users can dial in via modem and use the software? Can it even be done? >We've been trying and have encountered all sorts of trouble. I have heard good things about CUBIX Shiva has a new product called NETMODEM that _looks_ interesting. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert L. Dahlen - Director, Information Systems & Technology University of Denver - Denver, Colorado 80208 (303) 871-4385 INTERNET:bdahlen@du.edu BITNET:bdahlen@ducair
braun@dri.com (Kral) (05/14/91)
In article <Z7VR24w164w@octogard.UUCP> graham@octogard.UUCP (Graham Mainwaring) writes: >bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes: >If you want multiple lines, you can either have one machine per dial-in >line, or you can try to do something with DesqView or Windows 3.0 to >multitask several copies of pcAnywhere. Wait a minute; if all you need is multiple remote terminal access, something like CDOS or MDOS (from Digital Research) would work. But the sticky problem is running multiple network sessions. Currently, the IPX is single session (to the best of my knowledge) is the real problem here. -- kral * 408/647-6112 * ...!uunet!drivax!braun * braun@dri.com Whoever is calm and sensible is insane -- Rumi
kenh@techbook.com (Ken Haynes) (05/16/91)
In article <1991May13.203915.17126@mercury.cair.du.edu> bdahlen@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Robert L. Dahlen - U. of Denver USA=) writes: >In article <1991May10.203925.10586@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes: >> >> Well, the Subject line makes this cry for help pretty obvious. >>Does anyone have any experience setting up a Novell network so that >>users can dial in via modem and use the software? Can it even be done? >>We've been trying and have encountered all sorts of trouble. What have you tried that gave you trouble? > >I have heard good things about CUBIX >Shiva has a new product called NETMODEM that _looks_ interesting. CUBIX works great, but it really depends on your application. Sometimes a router is more suitable. What are you attempting to accomplish? Ken -- Ken Haynes, CNE 900 Support.... Novell Technical Support 7 Days a week/24 Hours a day UUCP: {nosun, sequent, tessi} kenh@techbook
jpp@specialix.co.uk (John Pettitt) (05/17/91)
>In article <1991May10.203925.10586@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> bucacs@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes: > Well, the Subject line makes this cry for help pretty obvious. >Does anyone have any experience setting up a Novell network so that >users can dial in via modem and use the software? Can it even be done? >We've been trying and have encountered all sorts of trouble. Try Novell Access Server - they just release a new version this week - you can have up to 16 remote dial in users on `dumb' terminals or PC's. (I just sent our press release about driver support to the comp.newprod moderator - look out for it or mail rick@specialix.com for info). -- John Pettitt, Specialix International, Email: jpp@specialix.com Tel +44 (0) 9323 54254 Fax +44 (0) 9323 52781 Disclaimer: Me, say that ? Never, it's a forged posting !