GR.JLB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jeff Balvanz) (05/28/91)
We are running Netware 3.1 on a Zenith 386/33E here and using it to drive (among other things) a Mac lab. The Macs are connected to a PC Router via LocalTalk, from thence to the server via EtherNet. I'm trying to put the Mac System 7.0 diskettes on the server as folders, and try as I might I cannot put a System 7.0 alias file on the Netware volume. (Unfortunately, the Tidbits disk contains an alias to the Control Panels folder that HAS to be in that folder.) The error I get is "The file "Control Panels" couldn't be written and was skipped (access privileges error)." I'm part of the supervisor group, so I can't imagine what kind of privileges it requires! This occurs whether I copy the file using System 6.0.7 or System 7.0. Attempting to create an alias on the Netware volume from a System 7.0 machine results in the same message. To add to the confusion, all of the above works fine on our departmental staff server (which runs Netware 2.2 and is connected to the Macs via a Cayman Systems Gatorbox). Has anyone else seen this sort of problem? We will be upgrading to 3.11 on the server (and presumably a newer version of the pc router software on the router) shortly; will this solve the problem? If it doesn't, I'll have to mount the System 7.0 disks as DiskCopy images, and trying to explain to Joe User how to use DiskCopy will be considerably more difficult than saying "Take these folders and copy them to diskettes with the same names." Thanks in advance. . . -- Jeff Balvanz BITNET: gr.jlb@isumvs.BITNET Senior Technical Consultant INTERNET: gr.jlb@isuvms.iastate.edu Microcomputer Services PHONE: (515) 294-8683 ISU Computation Center USMail: 191 DURHAM CENTER, ISU, AMES, IA 50011
ckinsman@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Chris Kinsman) (05/29/91)
In article <1991May28.152050.15871@news.iastate.edu> GR.JLB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jeff Balvanz) writes: >We are running Netware 3.1 on a Zenith 386/33E here and using it to >drive (among other things) a Mac lab. The Macs are connected >to a PC Router via LocalTalk, from thence to the server via >EtherNet. I'm trying to put the Mac System 7.0 diskettes on the >server as folders, and try as I might I cannot put a System 7.0 >alias file on the Netware volume. (Unfortunately, the Tidbits disk >contains an alias to the Control Panels folder that HAS to be in >that folder.) The error I get is "The file "Control Panels" couldn't >be written and was skipped (access privileges error)." I'm part of >the supervisor group, so I can't imagine what kind of privileges it >requires! This occurs whether I copy the file using System 6.0.7 or >System 7.0. Attempting to create an alias on the Netware volume >from a System 7.0 machine results in the same message. > >doesn't, I'll have to mount the System 7.0 disks as DiskCopy images, >and trying to explain to Joe User how to use DiskCopy will be >considerably more difficult than saying "Take these folders and copy >them to diskettes with the same names." Thanks in advance. . . I think you would be better off putting 7.0 up as Disk images. This is mainly due to the fact that nowadays you need to use the installer to install any system software and you need to boot System 7.0 before installing. IOW you are not going to get a booting system 7.0 diskette to install off of by dragging down the folders. This is why Apple released Diskcopy and recommends it's use for distributing system software on a network. We use it here and it works well. Chris -- Chris Kinsman KINSMAN@WSUVM1 Washington State University 22487863@WSUVM1 Computing Service Center ckinsman@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu Computing Resources Laboratory 76701.154@compuserve.com
timm@Sed.Novell.COM (Tim Myers) (05/31/91)
In article <1991May28.152050.15871@news.iastate.edu> GR.JLB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jeff Balvanz) writes: > We are running Netware 3.1 on a Zenith 386/33E here... > I'm trying to put the Mac System 7.0 diskettes on the > server as folders, and try as I might I cannot put a System 7.0 > alias file on the Netware volume... > > To add to the confusion, all of the above works fine on our > departmental staff server (which runs Netware 2.2 and is connected > to the Macs via a Cayman Systems Gatorbox). > > Has anyone else seen this sort of problem? We will be upgrading to > 3.11 on the server (and presumably a newer version of the pc router > software on the router) shortly; will this solve the problem? If it > doesn't, I'll have to mount the System 7.0 disks as DiskCopy images, > and trying to explain to Joe User how to use DiskCopy will be > considerably more difficult than saying "Take these folders and copy > them to diskettes with the same names." Thanks in advance. . . System 7.0 aliases do indeed work properly with NetWare v3.11 and NetWare for Macintosh v3.0. However, this is not relevant to your System 7.0 distribution woes. The idea of trying to copy System 7.0 without using the Installer is fundamentally flawed. You should copy the "System 7.0:System Software 7.0:Installer Version" folder from the CD-ROM to the server and make things much easier for your users. The Installer can be launched from the server volume and there will be NO FLOPPY DISK SWAPS. If you don't have the CD-ROM, I suppose you should put disk images on the server. ++Tim =========================================== Tim Myers Senior Software Consultant Novell, Inc. "Macintosh: the only GUI that doesn't SUCK."
UKT101@ukcc.uky.edu (Charles Bynaker) (06/05/91)
In article <1991May30.174451.8488@npd.Novell.COM> timm@Sed.Novell.COM (Tim Myers) writes: >In article <1991May28.152050.15871@news.iastate.edu> >GR.JLB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jeff Balvanz) writes: >> We are running Netware 3.1 on a Zenith 386/33E here... >> I'm trying to put the Mac System 7.0 diskettes on the >> server as folders, and try as I might I cannot put a System 7.0 >> alias file on the Netware volume... >> >> To add to the confusion, all of the above works fine on our >> departmental staff server (which runs Netware 2.2 and is connected >> to the Macs via a Cayman Systems Gatorbox). >> >> Has anyone else seen this sort of problem? We will be upgrading to >> 3.11 on the server (and presumably a newer version of the pc router >> software on the router) shortly; will this solve the problem? If it >> doesn't, I'll have to mount the System 7.0 disks as DiskCopy images, >> and trying to explain to Joe User how to use DiskCopy will be >> considerably more difficult than saying "Take these folders and copy >> them to diskettes with the same names." Thanks in advance. . . > >System 7.0 aliases do indeed work properly with NetWare v3.11 and NetWare >for Macintosh v3.0. However, this is not relevant to your System 7.0 >distribution woes. > >The idea of trying to copy System 7.0 without using the Installer is >fundamentally flawed. You should copy the "System 7.0:System Software >7.0:Installer Version" folder from the CD-ROM to the server and make >things much easier for your users. The Installer can be launched from the >server volume and there will be NO FLOPPY DISK SWAPS. If you don't have >the CD-ROM, I suppose you should put disk images on the server. > >++Tim > >=========================================== >Tim Myers >Senior Software Consultant >Novell, Inc. >"Macintosh: the only GUI that doesn't SUCK." > Why not use the network install version and just have the end user mount to the server and then launch the installer from the server. The space needed on the install to disk will be different depending on how the mac was booted. I seem to recall four megs if booted on harddisk, less if from diskette. Remember to run the compatability checker. Charles