[comp.graphics.visualization] Software for producing stereographic pairs

pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) (05/08/91)

Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?

Thanks in advance 

-- 
Andrzej Pindor
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steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 573 2266)) (05/10/91)

In article <1991May8.133241.7084@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>
>Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
>pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
>green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?
>

Hmmmm.  These would make GREAT GIF files!!!!!   :) :) Especially 640x480x256 !

I wonder if it is possible to "simulate" a red-green pair from a 2D image?

woops....  I just realised that 256 colours would not be required for an image
           with only red and green colours.....  :)


Steve

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lmeyer@well.sf.ca.us (lhary meyer) (05/11/91)

I don't have exactly what you want, but EMail me at lmeyer@well.sf.ca.us and
I will send you a StereoGraphics software manual with the algorythms you'll
need to write your own...  Lhary]

jayh@ms.uky.edu (Jay Hofacker) (05/13/91)

steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 573 2266)) writes:

>In article <1991May8.133241.7084@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
>>pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
>>green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?
>>

>Hmmmm.  These would make GREAT GIF files!!!!!   :) :) Especially 640x480x256 !

>I wonder if it is possible to "simulate" a red-green pair from a 2D image?

>woops....  I just realised that 256 colours would not be required for an image
>           with only red and green colours.....  :)

The current version of Fracint (15.1, I think) will produce red/green 3-D
fractals, and will create red/green 3-d projections of GIF files (the color of
each pixel in the GIF is viewed as the height of the image at that point, some
fractals produce absolutly stunning pictures, though you can get "interesting"
results with GIFS from alt.sex.pictures :) )
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tcline@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Ted Cline) (05/15/91)

> In comp.graphics.visualization, pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
> 
> 
> Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
> pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
> green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?
> 
>     Thanks in advance 
> 
>     -- 
>     Andrzej Pindor
>     University of Toronto
>     Computing Services
>     pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca


I'm not sure I can give out my software (HP owning everything I do, etc),
but I'll email a 5144-byte uuencoded "LORENZ3D.GIF" 640x480 VGA gif87
file to those who email-ask for it.

It is a red/blue 3d dot image of the Lorentz chaotic attractor.

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sam@tik.vtt.fi (Sakari Mattila) (05/15/91)

 
It is possible to connect LCD-shutter glasses to an EGA or VGA display
to show real 3D images. The only problem is to change display between
each horizontal retrace period (ie. 60 times in a second in VGA). It
should be possible to alternate EGA display pages or VGA color palette
fast enough. Detailed plans for Mac are available at funic.funet.fi in
anonymous ftp directory  mac/ ...3D ... something.
 
Sakari Mattila    mmattila @ tik.vtt.fi

coy@ssc-vax (Stephen B Coy) (05/16/91)

In article <1991May10.073212.8568@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 573 2266)) writes:
>In article <1991May8.133241.7084@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>>Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
>>pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
>>green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?

My shareware ray tracer, Vivid, comes with a utility that lets you
combine two images into a red/blue 3d image.  The results are pretty
good.  Maybe I need an option for green?

>woops....  I just realised that 256 colours would not be required for an image
>           with only red and green colours.....  :)

Since you're talking VGA you've got a possible 64 shades each of red
and green.  That works out to a possible 4096 different colors.  In
practice the 256 colors available with VGA works quite well.

>Steve Balogh  VK3YMY                  | steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au

Stephen Coy
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				BDIF

cpetterb@glacier.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg) (05/16/91)

In article <3988@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> coy@ssc-vax (Stephen B Coy) writes:

>In article <1991May10.073212.8568@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 573 2266)) writes:
>>In article <1991May8.133241.7084@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>>>Does anyone know about software for IBM AT (or 386) which would produce 
>>>pairs of images, in green and red, of a 3D object, which when viewed through
>>>green and red glasses, would give 3D illusion?
>
>My shareware ray tracer, Vivid, comes with a utility that lets you
>combine two images into a red/blue 3d image.  The results are pretty
>good.  Maybe I need an option for green?
>
>>woops....  I just realised that 256 colours would not be required for an image
>>           with only red and green colours.....  :)
>
>Since you're talking VGA you've got a possible 64 shades each of red
>and green.  That works out to a possible 4096 different colors.  In
>practice the 256 colors available with VGA works quite well.

Remember to use yellow where the red and green cross, but that takes only
another 64 (193 total, 64 each red, green, and yellow and a background,
probably black).

Cary
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aipdc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) (05/18/91)

In article <CPETTERB.91May16101834@mickey.glacier.sim.es.com> cpetterb@glacier.sim.es.com (Cary Petterborg) writes:
>Remember to use yellow where the red and green cross, but that takes only
>another 64 (193 total, 64 each red, green, and yellow and a background,
>probably black).

No, you need to dedicate 4 bits to red and 4 to green, so that the
proportions are correct where they cross.  
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jmunkki@hila.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) (05/19/91)

In article <5632@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi> sam@tik.vtt.fi (Sakari Mattila) writes:
>It is possible to connect LCD-shutter glasses to an EGA or VGA display
>to show real 3D images. The only problem is to change display between
>each horizontal retrace period (ie. 60 times in a second in VGA). It
>should be possible to alternate EGA display pages or VGA color palette
>fast enough. Detailed plans for Mac are available at funic.funet.fi in
>anonymous ftp directory  mac/ ...3D ... something.

Better yet, why not get the files from where I keep them, so you'll
always get the latest version. The main archive site for the Sega 3D
files is at vega.hut.fi and the files are in pub/mac/finnish/sega3d

Most of the files are for the Macintosh, but there are text versions
and even one GIF picture with the circuit description. The plans are
very easy to adapt to almost any application and I see no reason why
the circuit couldn't be made to emulate the much more expensive
StereoGraphics CrystalEyes (except that the shutters might not be
fast enough for 120 Hz).

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sam@tik.vtt.fi (Sakari Mattila) (05/25/91)

 
The article on 3D visualizing system based on Sega LCD glasses is
available via anonymous ftp from vega.hut.fi, directory pub/mac/finnish/sega3d.
The file contains instructions and circuit diagram for Sega - Mac interface.
Author of the text is Juri Munkki (jmunkki @ hila.hut.fi).
 
Sakari Mattila    mattila @ tik.vtt.fi