jeyadev@WRC.XEROX.COM (Jeyadev) (11/15/90)
Could someone tell me how I go about obtaining the apE visualization software from the Ohio Supercomputing Centre? I would like to have an address and/or telephone number. Thanks -- Surendar Jeyadev Internet: jeyadev.wbst128@xerox.com We have faults we have hardly used yet
PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Paul Kunz) (01/28/91)
This is a survey to those funded by DoE. Do you have or have ordered apE? If yes, then how long did you legal department take to sign the license? I'm just checking if my own legal department is off scale or just normal.
jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Abbey) (02/02/91)
In article <91027.193421PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Paul Kunz) writes: > > This is a survey to those funded by DoE. > > Do you have or have ordered apE? > > If yes, then how long did you legal department take to sign the >license? > > I'm just checking if my own legal department is off scale or just >normal. We don't have an explicit legal department, and we are not DoE, but apE's software license does contain some hairy clauses. For one thing, it states that all employees who use apE must indicate in writing that they have read and agree to comply with the terms of the license. Arranging that might be giving your folks some trouble. -- Jonathan Abbey (512) 472-2052 \ (512) 835-3081 jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu \ broccol@csdfx8a.arlut.utexas.edu The University of Texas at Austin \ Applied Research Laboratories
ktl@sgi1.wag.caltech.edu (Kian-Tat Lim) (02/02/91)
For those who have managed to get apE 2.0, have you had any problems with the control dials? Setting the min and max values of a dial interactively seems to have no effect, though setting it in the Flux file that defines the dial does work. [Note: I haven't delved too far into apE; this shows up even in the tutorials.] Is there a known patch for this? Is there a mailing list for apE (I don't see one mentioned in the newsletters or the documentation), or does everything go through Ms. Messenger? -- Kian-Tat Lim (ktl@wag.caltech.edu, KTL @ CITCHEM.BITNET, GEnie: K.LIM1)
kellow@leahy.cheg.nd.edu (John Kellow) (02/02/91)
In article <43550@ut-emx.uucp> jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Abbey) writes: >In article <91027.193421PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> >PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Paul Kunz) writes: >> >> This is a survey to those funded by DoE. >> >> Do you have or have ordered apE? >> >> If yes, then how long did you legal department take to sign the >>license? >> >> I'm just checking if my own legal department is off scale or just >>normal. > >We don't have an explicit legal department, and we are not DoE, but >apE's software license does contain some hairy clauses. For one thing, >it states that all employees who use apE must indicate in writing that >they have read and agree to comply with the terms of the license. > >Arranging that might be giving your folks some trouble. > >-- > >Jonathan Abbey (512) 472-2052 \ (512) 835-3081 >jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu \ broccol@csdfx8a.arlut.utexas.edu >The University of Texas at Austin \ Applied Research Laboratories Having just read and signed the agreement, I have to agree that it does contain some pretty hairy clauses. My question is how is this going to affect software that you write using the apE libraries? Are you allowed to share your modules or are they encumbered by the license? What about porting it to a new platform? It looks like a lot of thought and effort was put into making apE portable and extensible. It could become the GNU Emacs of visualization, but after reading that license agreement I wonder if that will ever happen. On related note, is there a mailing list specifically for discussing the use and programming of apE? (or is that the kind of thing that this group is for, but so far the traffic in this group seems pretty light). John Kellow kellow@ndcheg.cheg.nd.edu
anderson@osc.edu (Steve Anderson) (02/04/91)
There's been lots of discussion lately about the gnarly license form for apE. Although I'm a programmer, not a lawyer, I wanted to add a bit of re-assurance. In 25 words or less, -- relax. Remember the spirit of the effort. 90% of the wording in the contract comes from standard University contracts at OSU, clauses all required by state law. If you have a problem with the license, direct your questions to Michelle Messenger, (michelle@osgp.osc.edu) or (614) 292-0006, (614) 292-0006 (FAX). We will do our best to work out any kinks. The response to apE so far has been phenomenal. apE is in use on all 7 continents (including Antartica). The number of orders was tremendous (exact count I'm not sure, but we have a world map in our conference room that is almost entirely red with pushpins denoting shipped copies). We appreciate everyone's interests. I can also say that we are currently preparing the first update to fix the first wave of bugs and support for some machines that we had not tested when 2.0 began shipping. Questions, bug reports, etc., can be e-mailed to apE@osgp.osc.edu. PostScript documentation and up to date information on bugs, etc. can be ftp'd at apE.osgp.osc.edu (128.146.18.18) --steve -- H. Stephen Anderson | email: anderson@osgp.osc.edu The Ohio Supercomputer Graphics Project | Phone: (614) 292-3274 1224 Kinnear Road | Columbus, Ohio 43212 |
rbl@nitrex.UUCP ( Dr. Robin Lake ) (02/16/91)
In article <43550@ut-emx.uucp> jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Abbey) writes: |>In article <91027.193421PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> |>PFKEB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Paul Kunz) writes: |>> |>> This is a survey to those funded by DoE. |>> |>> Do you have or have ordered apE? |>> |>> If yes, then how long did you legal department take to sign the |>>license? |>> |>> I'm just checking if my own legal department is off scale or just |>>normal. |> |>We don't have an explicit legal department, and we are not DoE, but |>apE's software license does contain some hairy clauses. For one thing, |>it states that all employees who use apE must indicate in writing that |>they have read and agree to comply with the terms of the license. |> |>Arranging that might be giving your folks some trouble. |> |>-- |> |>Jonathan Abbey (512) 472-2052 \ (512) 835-3081 |>jonabbey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu \ broccol@csdfx8a.arlut.utexas.edu |>The University of Texas at Austin \ Applied Research Laboratories When we drove to Columbus and met with the Ohio Supercomputer Center folks, they said, as I recall, "just cross out anything you don't like on the license agreement and send it back. Our legal folks aren't that hard to get along with." Our legal folks are sticklers for detail and they only had one minor problem which didn't deal with the "everyone has to read it" clause. One of our vendors gets around that issue by prepending the application's operation with a natice that has to be responded to with a CR before proceeding into the application ... Rob Lake I certainly don't speak for our legal staffs!
schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz) (03/02/91)
Could someone enlighten me as to what is apE? Is free? Available for anonymous ftp? Thanks. -- John C. Schultz EMAIL: schultz@halley.serc.3m.com 3M Company, Building 518-01-1 WRK: +1 (612) 733-4047 1865 Woodlane Drive, Dock 4, Woodbury, MN 55125 How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
okeefe@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Paul O'Keefe) (03/05/91)
In article <SCHULTZ.91Mar1200014@halley.est.3m.com>, schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz) writes: > > Could someone enlighten me as to what is apE? ApE is a visualization package from the Ohio Supercompter Center at OSU. > Is it free? No, but it is cheap; $75.00 for either an academic or non-academic license. That includes pre-built Sparc and SGI binaries, source code, demos, and printed manuals. > Available for anonymous ftp? It follows from above that it is not available by anonymous ftp. However, a technical summary, order form, and license agreements are available in PostScript form by anonymous ftp at apE.osgp.osc.edu (128.146.18.18).
michelle@osc.edu (Michelle Messenger) (04/12/91)
The ordering procedure/distribution method for apE has changed. The good news is, if you are an academic institution, getting apE is now much easier! It won't even cost $75! The Ohio State University and The Ohio Supercomputer Center are currently reviewing our distribution policy for non-academic's who wish to obtain apE. The new ordering procedure for apE 2.1 is as follows (this is for academic institutions only): 1) You obtain a copy of the apE license agreement via anonymous ftp from apE.osgp.osc.edu (128.146.18.18). 2) You complete and sign the license and send it to me, Michelle Messenger, OSC, 1224 Kinnear Rd., Columbus, Ohio 43212. 3) After I receive the license, I will issue a private ftp account so that you may obtain the software. And that's it! There's no $ involved. If you do not have ftp access, you may send a tape (1/4" cartridge, either 60mb or 150mb, 8mm exabyte, 9-track, or NeXT optical disk) to me at the address above. You must also cover return postage (e.g. give me a Fed Ex acct. #, send stamps, etc.) If you are an non-academic institution, we can send you general information on apE, but you will have to wait to receive ordering information. We hope to announce all the details of the new distribution procedure in a few weeks. Please watch our anonymous ftp area for details: apE.osgp.osc.edu (128.146.18.18). Please let me know if you have any questions. --Michelle Michelle Messenger apE Project Coordinator michelle@rhett.osgp.osc.edu FAX: 614-292-7168 -- Michelle Messenger | email: michelle@osgp.osc.edu The Ohio Supercomputer Graphics Project | Phone: 1224 Kinnear Road | (614) 292-0006 Columbus, Ohio 43212 | FAX: (614) 292-7168
repeat@athena.mit.edu (David A. Irvine) (06/30/91)
Can anyone tell me where I can get information on the new (and powerful) graphics and visualization program called "APE"? If you know what computer network I can get it from that would also be greatly appreciated. Thank You, Dave repeat@athena.mit.edu