[comp.windows.ms.programmer] Turbo C++ Windows Development Kit -- Any News?

dsampson@x102a.harris-atd.com (sampson david 58163) (01/10/91)

Before the Christmas break, PC Week said that Borland was readying
their new Turbo C++, with an integrated Windows Development Kit, for
"shipment during the 1st quarter".

Has anybody heard anything more recent?

Borland did a demo (according to PC Week, I wasn't there) of the kit
last May at the Windows 3.0 unvailing, so they've apparently have had
the thing in good shape for a while.

For those that haven't heard anything about this:

Borland is going to release a Turbo C++ "upgrade"/new product that
runs as a Windows 3.0 application.  In addition, it will let you write
Windows 3.0 applications.  The editor, debugger, etc will be actual
windows applications, not just the IDE in a DOS (text) based window.

The interesting thing that I've heard is that Borland is writing their
own SDK libraries and integrating them with the Turbo C++ libs, not
relying on the MS SDK.  So we'll get full C++ in this product.

Zortech, on the other hand, has a compiler that is "DOS based" (i.e.
like the current version of Turbo C++), that lets you link in the MS
SDK libs.  Zortech doesn't supply their own SDK libs -- you have to
buy the MS SDK to develop windows applications with their compiler.

I expect a good side effect from the Borland product: Since the
debugger is a windows application, I don't think we'll have to use a
dual monitor for debugging.  Yea Borland!!!!

Anybody that has an ATI Wondershit card will appreciate that.  The ATI
card (at least in my Gateway 2000) needs to be plugged into an 8 bit
slot before it will work with a mono card.  The 8 bit software setup
isn't good enough, besides the ATI dual monitor configuration in the
software setup only gives you EGA/Mono.  You can't set up a dual monitor
and retain VGA.  And when you plug the card into an 8 bit slot, you've
lost your "regular" VGA when you're not working with the
Windows/Codeview debugger stuff.

Apparently Borland had the foresite to get away from this method of
windows debugging.

So --- When does it ship?????  I'm tired of not being able to debug.
I've got a call to a MS SDK function that sends the computer to
never-never land and I don't know why.  The function containing the
call worked when it was in the main module, I just moved the function
to its own file and now it hangs reaaalllll good.  Wasted two weeks
chasing this thing... grumble -- grumble.  Come on Philippe.  We're
waiting...  Do you accept direct deposit?




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David Sampson                                         Harris Corporation
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