aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford) (05/03/91)
A few days back I posted my longish summary of the two most popular C++ toolkits for Windows 3.0 development (C++/Views and CommonView II). I posted it on comp.windows.ms and comp.lang.c++. So as not to overload the net I did not post here. If anyone didn't get it but wants it please e-mail and I send it along. If I get lots of requests I post it to this group. Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca ...uunet!van-bc!eosvcr!aew
Randy_Humes@f117.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Randy Humes) (05/09/91)
In what country is CommonView II popular to any degree? It has a poor rep in the USA from the support end. I know of no one who is using it for development.
Eric_Lapaille@p2721.f27.n295.z2.fidonet.org (Eric Lapaille) (05/13/91)
> In what country is CommonView II popular to > any degree? It has a poor rep > in the USA from the support end. I know of no one who > is using it for development. Glockenspiel comes from Ireland and is more popular here in Europe. Their support is better than those from their ImageSoft US distributor.
schwartz@possum.den.mmc.com (Michael Schwartz x1-6820) (05/17/91)
I have held off on my 2 cents worth until I had called Imagesoft again. I was a user of Commonview I, including the Glockenspeil compiler and DOS extender (i.e., in it for some substantial bucks). I had 4 releases of Commonview and the compiler for various reasons (bad disks, REALLY grody errors) and feel I did a fair amount of debugging of their product for them. I could never get a substantial product to hang together without spare pixels or excessively slow performance, so I stuck to the SDK. I received no notice of Commonview II availability, and first heard of it on the net. I contacted Imagesoft and was told that their policy was I was permitted to buy Commonview II. At the regular price. The caveat to all software buyers is to get the upgrade policy for the product nailed down a bit better (they did upgrade me from useless versions to only somewhat buggy versions). Software vendors: Provide resonable upgrade paths for your version 1 users or you won't have any. Me, at least (and I'm a sucker for these things...just ask microsoft). I now use Borland C++ (as a reasonable upgrade to Turbo C++), and given reasonable code it generates reasonable applications. -- ----------------------- schwartz@pogo.den.mmc.com "You'll find ... that the only thing mschwartz@mmc.com you can do easily is be wrong, mschwart@du.edu and that's hardly worth the effort"