[comp.windows.ms.programmer] Summary of C++ Toolkits for Windows 3.0 Development

aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford) (05/03/91)

A few days back I posted my longish summary of the two most popular
C++ toolkits for Windows 3.0 development (C++/Views and CommonView II).
I posted it on comp.windows.ms and comp.lang.c++. So as not to overload
the net I did not post here.

If anyone didn't get it but wants it please e-mail and I send it along.
If I get lots of requests I post it to this group.

Alan Walford
Eos Systems Inc
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Randy_Humes@f117.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Randy Humes) (05/09/91)

In what country is CommonView II popular to any degree?  It has a poor rep
in the USA from the support end.  I know of no one who is using it for 
development.

Eric_Lapaille@p2721.f27.n295.z2.fidonet.org (Eric Lapaille) (05/13/91)

 > In what country is CommonView II popular to 
 > any degree?  It has a poor rep
 > in the USA from the support end.  I know of no one who 
 > is using it for development.
 Glockenspiel comes from Ireland and is more popular here  in Europe. Their
support is better than those from their ImageSoft US distributor.

schwartz@possum.den.mmc.com (Michael Schwartz x1-6820) (05/17/91)

I have held off on my 2 cents worth until I had called Imagesoft again.
I was a user of Commonview I, including the Glockenspeil compiler and
DOS extender (i.e., in it for some substantial bucks).  I had 4 releases
of Commonview and the compiler for various reasons (bad disks, REALLY
grody errors) and feel I did a fair amount of debugging of their product
for them.  I could never get a substantial product to hang together
without spare pixels or excessively slow performance, so I stuck to the
SDK.

I received no notice of Commonview II availability, and first heard of
it on the net.  I contacted Imagesoft and was told that their policy was
I was permitted to buy Commonview II.  At the regular price.

The caveat to all software buyers is to get the upgrade policy for the
product nailed down a bit better (they did upgrade me from useless
versions to only somewhat buggy versions).  

Software vendors:  Provide resonable upgrade paths for your version 1
users or you won't have any.  Me, at least (and I'm a sucker for these
things...just ask microsoft).

I now use Borland C++ (as a reasonable upgrade to Turbo C++), and given
reasonable code it generates reasonable applications.
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