[comp.sys.amiga.multimedia] CDTV

jtravis@dworkin.Amber.mccc.edu (Jim, Sysop) (06/19/91)

        I look forward to the CDTV addition to my A3000..my mother already 
wants one, mostly because we've gone through 2 computers (my old 2000HD and 
and a Compaq 386e) and she can't deal with either of them. Slower as it was 
(technically speaking only), she preferred the Amiga, but BOTH systems 
confused the heck out of her. It's not nomenclature or anything like one
would expect - she'd just not from our generation.  We have had LONG 
conversations on the phone concerning "computer" issues - a 2 hour 
talk about 3.5" disks and "what is write-enabled and what is 
write-protected" comes to mind. All she wants to do is just sit in front of 
it and have it DO something.  She's got other things to do with her life.
        
        Appliance time. CDTV may do well. CBM announced that 2 new 
technologies recently (read 'em on Prodigy) that will signifigantly speed up 
CDTV reads without extra hardware.  Also, a previous post from the Prod 
suggested more than one manuafacturer of CDTV, under a consortium, headed 
(in suggestion) by a major japanese media company (who's not particularly 
pleased with the state of CD-I).  This is all still speculative from what I 
read, although word may come as early as later this month. It'd be nice. 
Still, if this were to happen, CDTV might be unstoppable. 
        
        Now if we could do something about Marc Barrett. 
        
         ..and now the commercial..
 
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jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) (06/20/91)

In article <DiqR43w163w@dworkin.Amber.mccc.edu> jtravis@dworkin.Amber.mccc.edu (Jim, Sysop) writes:
>technologies recently (read 'em on Prodigy) that will signifigantly speed up 

I can't: IBM/Sears owned Prodigy refuses to support the Amiga.

Can you say anti-trust?

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jtravis@dworkin.Amber.mccc.edu (Jim, Sysop) (06/22/91)

jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) writes:

> In article <DiqR43w163w@dworkin.Amber.mccc.edu> jtravis@dworkin.Amber.mccc.ed
> >technologies recently (read 'em on Prodigy) that will signifigantly speed up
> 
> I can't: IBM/Sears owned Prodigy refuses to support the Amiga.
> 
        
        Well, I run the Mac version under my Amax II..go figure.
        
> Can you say anti-trust?
> 
        
        And you want to hear something REALLY impressing? According to a 
Prodigy rep, CBM doesn't want an Amiga port..now THAT sounds like a lie if 
I've ever heard one, but it's beginning to be spread as "real".  I wonder if 
Prodigy is doing a dis-information campaign (as well as reading one's drives 
for info..say, who RUNS prodigy anyway? Someone from the CIA?)
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        and now the commercial..
        
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        And let me know what's up with that PowerGlove thingie! Does it work 
or what?!
        
        Thanks in advance!

arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) (06/26/91)

Prodigy...



A better question to ask yourself is instead of "Why dont we have it", is "Why
would we want it?""

Prodigy is a pig organization if I ever saw one anyways.. Theyre already in
court for a couple things, one thing among them is their ability to peek into
your hard drive to see what illegal goodies you have for them to make recordds
of.

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pnelson@tymix.Tymnet.COM (Phil Nelson) (06/27/91)

First, I should say that Prodigy is a customer of BT North America, and that
the following in no way represents the official position of BT North America.


In article <arctngnt.0391@amiganet.chi.il.us> arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) writes:

>Prodigy is a pig organization if I ever saw one anyways.. Theyre already in
>court for a couple things, one thing among them is their ability to peek into
>your hard drive to see what illegal goodies you have for them to make recordds
>of.


Personally, I have no use for Prodigy, since they do not support the Amiga,
as far as I know. That said, I would like to add that Mr. Poag's comment
strikes me as ridiculously exaggurated. Certainly it is worth considering
the potential for abuse when someone else's software is running on your
machine while connected to the telephone network, and I would be very
concerned if I had evidence that such software was transferring information
from my disk, but I would not assume that someone was looking for "illegal
goodies" unless I was paranoid, or had something to hide. A more likely
explanation is that the software simply had bugs.

I personally find it incredibly unlikely that Prodigy would deliberately
create a program for snooping through your hard drive - it's not the kind
of thing corporations do, in my experience. For one thing, it shows more
imagination and daring than should be expected of an American corporation
these days. Also, it is probably illegal, certainly immoral, unlikely to
profit anyone, and undignified.


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arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) (06/29/91)

In article <521@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, pnelson@tymix.Tymnet.COM (Phil Nelson)
writes:
>First, I should say that Prodigy is a customer of BT North America, and that
>the following in no way represents the official position of BT North America.
>
>
>In article <arctngnt.0391@amiganet.chi.il.us> arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowi
>e J Poag) writes:
>
>>Prodigy is a pig organization if I ever saw one anyways.. Theyre already in
>>court for a couple things, one thing among them is their ability to peek into
>>your hard drive to see what illegal goodies you have for them to make recordds
>
>>of.
>
>
>Personally, I have no use for Prodigy, since they do not support the Amiga,
>as far as I know. That said, I would like to add that Mr. Poag's comment
>strikes me as ridiculously exaggurated. Certainly it is worth considering
>the potential for abuse when someone else's software is running on your
>machine while connected to the telephone network, and I would be very
>concerned if I had evidence that such software was transferring information
>from my disk, but I would not assume that someone was looking for "illegal
>goodies" unless I was paranoid, or had something to hide. A more likely
>explanation is that the software simply had bugs.
>
>I personally find it incredibly unlikely that Prodigy would deliberately
>create a program for snooping through your hard drive - it's not the kind
>of thing corporations do, in my experience. For one thing, it shows more
>imagination and daring than should be expected of an American corporation
>these days. Also, it is probably illegal, certainly immoral, unlikely to
>profit anyone, and undignified.
>
>
>--
>Phil Nelson @ BT North America Inc. [ames|pyramid]!oliveb!tymix!pnelson
>
>	Let a man meet a she-bear robbed of her cubs,
>                rather than a fool in his folly.         Proverbs 17:12


Ok. Mind explaining to me why theyre in court in the first place, then?


From what rumors ive heard (They wont even talk about it on Prodigy...gee -
wonder why!) that software houses were paying prodigy to snoop hard drives,
and collect names. Just a rumor though.


Prodigy, you understand, is a service for computer illeterates. Mr. Joe
Average has no idea that they snoop. And thats taking advantage of their
customers. skrew em.

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