jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping) (12/27/90)
In article <22135@mvis1.com>, frose@ (Flavio Rose) writes: > Some questions on XView that I can't seem to figure out from > the O'Reilly manual (next step is read the source code... or > is there some other manual?). This brings up a question that nags me a lot. There is a significant amount of XView functionality and information that Heller does not provide in his "XView Programming Manual". For example, you won't find the PANEL_LIST_CHOOSE_NONE attribute anywhere in that book. Many times I have used Sun's GUIDE tool for constructing an interface, and spent time looking at the source code it generates, because it uses code I have not seen in Heller. This would not be troublesome if Sun included an exhaustive, complete alternative source for the XView toolkit. I could accept Heller's book and a good "programming manual" and Sun's edition as the "reference guide". BUT...all we get from Sun is Heller's book, which is incomplete. Does anyone have a solution to this? Mike Jipping Hope College Department of Computer Science jipping@cs.hope.edu (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE) "The 70's are over old man. Take your mood ring and go home." -- Dana Gould
argv@turnpike.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan Heller) (12/30/90)
In article <1990Dec27.122147.20769@cs.hope.edu> jipping@cs.hope.edu writes: > > Some questions on XView that I can't seem to figure out from > > the O'Reilly manual (next step is read the source code... or > > is there some other manual?). ... > This would not be troublesome if Sun included an exhaustive, complete > alternative source for the XView toolkit. I could accept Heller's book > and a good "programming manual" and Sun's edition as the "reference > guide". BUT...all we get from Sun is Heller's book, which is incomplete. > > Does anyone have a solution to this? O'Reilly currently has no plans for providing an XView reference book and Sun is not planning on providing one either. I cannot be more specific about this, but I can recommend UTSL (Use The Source, Luke) for particular problems. For the particular case about the PANEL_LIST_* attributes discussed here, those attrs were not available at the time the book was written. I had to be through with the book 2 months before first shipment. A lot of code got added in the interim including much of the panel list stuff. Generally, this shouldn't be too much of a problem, tho. -- dan ---------------------------------------------------- O'Reilly && Associates argv@sun.com / argv@ora.com Opinions expressed reflect those of the author only.
dale@intran.UUCP (Dale Mensch) (01/11/91)
In article <1990Dec27.122147.20769@cs.hope.edu>, jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping) writes: > In article <22135@mvis1.com>, frose@ (Flavio Rose) writes: > > > Some questions on XView that I can't seem to figure out from > > the O'Reilly manual (next step is read the source code... or > > is there some other manual?). > > For example, you won't find > the PANEL_LIST_CHOOSE_NONE attribute anywhere in that book. > > This would not be troublesome if Sun included an exhaustive, complete > alternative source for the XView toolkit. I could accept Heller's book > and a good "programming manual" and Sun's edition as the "reference > guide". BUT...all we get from Sun is Heller's book, which is incomplete. > > Does anyone have a solution to this? > I thought that this rang a bell. In the OpenWindows 1.0 manual set, I found "XView 1.0 Reference Manual: Summary of the XView API", which doesn't seem to be in the 1.0.1 or 2.0 manual set. (It is 277 pages long- not the same as the 157 page "XView Version 2 Reference Manual: Converting SunView Applications".) PANEL_LIST_CHOOSE_NONE is briefly described in section 3.21 Panel List Attributes, and in Chapter 4-Summary Tables. I have no clue whatever why this is no longer in the manual set, but I'm sure glad that I never throw anything away! Of course, how much has changed between XView 1.0 and Version 2, I've no idea. ----- "Half guesses, half supposition, all disclaimed." Dale Mensch-Xerox Corp/Intran Operation.-Mpls. MN.- uunet!intran!dale