[comp.windows.open-look] NeWS Toolkilt 2.0 Pricing

steve@arezzo.siemens.com (Steve Giovannetti) (04/03/91)

I called Sun telemarketing yesterday to find out the details on ordering 
TNT 2.0.  Apparently it is an unbundled product so you must order it
seperately.  The part number is TNT-2.0-4-4-21 and the cost is $295.00.



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 Steve Giovannetti   				(steve@learning.siemens.com)

 It is amusing that a virtue is made of the vice of chastity; and it's a
 pretty odd sort of chastity at that, which leads men straight into the
 sin of Onan, and girls to the waning of their color.
                -- Voltaire

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bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) (04/04/91)

In article <STEVE.91Apr3082319@arezzo.siemens.com> steve@arezzo.siemens.com (Steve Giovannetti) writes:
   The part number is TNT-2.0-4-4-21 and the cost is $295.00.

However, since

In article <HOPKINS.91Apr2025700@poit.sun.com> hopkins@sun.com (Don Hopkins) writes:
   A right-to-use license is bundled with every SPARCstation(TM) Sun
   ships.

it seems that the price of TNT-* is for the distribution media and
documentation, and that you already have the right to copy it from a
friend to run on your SPARCstation if you like.  Right?  This would
certainly be the wisest way for Sun to encourage its use and
propagation.

[These are my own speculations only, and do not represent the opinion
of any corporation or organization, nor do they represent
encouragement to undertake potentially illegal activity.  I'm just
trying to find out the answers, just like you.]

hopkins@sun.com (Don Hopkins) (04/04/91)

In article <BOB.91Apr3162155@volitans.MorningStar.Com> bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:

   it seems that the price of TNT-* is for the distribution media and
   documentation, and that you already have the right to copy it from a
   friend to run on your SPARCstation if you like.  Right?  This would
   certainly be the wisest way for Sun to encourage its use and
   propagation.

When you order TNT, you get the media (a CD) and documentation, and a
multi user site license, which means that anyone at your site can run
it on their SPARCstation. It does not give you the right to photocopy
the manual or give copies of the software to people from other sites,
however. The part number is TNT-2.0-4-4-21, the price is $295, but if
you're from a non-profit or educational institution, you should ask
your Sun sales person about what kind of discount you can get.

TNT 2.0 is much nicer than TNT 1.0 (the "experimental" toolkit
distributed with Open Windows 1.0 and 2.0, aka NDE). It's simpler,
faster, smaller, the naming is much more consistant, it's better
factored into useful building blocks, with fewer abstract layers of
intrinsics, and has an entirely rewritten input system (the services
architecture) that is much more memory efficient and easier to use,
and eliminates many race conditions. It has a more complete set of
Open Look componants, that can display in 3D or 2D (so it's useable on
a monochrome screen unlike certain other toolkits).  It includes the
wire service, a library for client/server communication, and the jot
library, a very nice client side text package that supports variable
width fonts, justified text, multiple server connections, multiple
views of a single buffer, spans, searching, selections, drag'n'drop,
etc. It also includes "gnt", a NeWS toolkit code generator for Open
Windows Developer's Guide, that lets you build your windows and
control panels using "direct manipulating" with DevGUIDE, and will
generate the PostScript code, cps glue, and client side C code and
stubs for your callback functions. 

In case you were wondering why you haven't heard much about the NeWS
toolkit for so long, it's because we've been so busy getting it ready
for people to use, instead of talking about it alot and pushing it out
the door before it's done!

	-Don