rms@AI.MIT.EDU (Richard Stallman) (11/12/90)
I recently sent a message to a GNU mailing list, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, talking about the use of that very list (and its associated newsgroup, gnu.g++.help (?)) to promote porting GNU software to Apple systems. It appears that my message was copied onto comp.lang.c++. Probably the mailing list is gatewayed there. Some people seem to think it is wrong of me to send such a message there. In fact, I did not do so. If you saw it on that newsgroup, please keep in mind my message was about the use of the GNU mailing list (and its equivalent newsgroup). I do urge the readers of comp.lang.c++ not to support the use of Apple equipment, but I would not assert that such support is misuse of comp.lang.c++. I'm sorry if anyone who got the wrong impression felt offended. There will be such messages on help-g++ from time to time. The only way to avoid having them appear on comp.lang.c++ would be to turn off the gateway. The readers of comp.lang.c++ ought to be the ones to decide whether to do this. Note, however, that the only choices available are to gateway nothing, to gateway everything, or to find a person who would like to do the work of gatewaying selectively. It may be that the gateway fails to indicate that the messages come from help-g++. If so, maybe an improvement in the gateway could avoid confusion. I don't know what the message looks like after it goes through the gateway. I am sending this message to help-g++ as a way of getting it onto comp.lang.c++. I don't post net news directly.
tower@AI.MIT.EDU (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) (11/15/90)
From: rms@ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 90 19:17:09 -0500 I recently sent a message to a GNU mailing list, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, talking about the use of that very list (and its associated newsgroup, gnu.g++.help (?)) to promote porting GNU software to Apple systems. It appears that my message was copied onto comp.lang.c++. Probably the mailing list is gatewayed there. It is. Some people seem to think it is wrong of me to send such a message there. In fact, I did not do so. If you saw it on that newsgroup, please keep in mind my message was about the use of the GNU mailing list (and its equivalent newsgroup). I do urge the readers of comp.lang.c++ not to support the use of Apple equipment, but I would not assert that such support is misuse of comp.lang.c++. I'm sorry if anyone who got the wrong impression felt offended. There will be such messages on help-g++ from time to time. The only way to avoid having them appear on comp.lang.c++ would be to turn off the gateway. The readers of comp.lang.c++ ought to be the ones to decide whether to do this. Note, however, that the only choices available are to gateway nothing, to gateway everything, or to find a person who would like to do the work of gatewaying selectively. The readers of comp.lang.c++ did approve the one way gating in the Spring of 1988 by ~84 yes votes to ~6 no votes. It may be that the gateway fails to indicate that the messages come from help-g++. If so, maybe an improvement in the gateway could avoid confusion. I don't know what the message looks like after it goes through the gateway. I've appended the USENET news header from a gatewayed message. The Newsgroups:, Organization:, and Followup-To: header lines make it clear what's going on. Even so, we plan to change the Organization: field to make things even clearer. I am sending this message to help-g++ as a way of getting it onto comp.lang.c++. I don't post net news directly. thanx -len ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Xref: mit-eddie gnu.g++.help:106 comp.lang.c++:10837 Path: mit-eddie!bu.edu!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!AI.MIT.EDU!rms From: rms@ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Newsgroups: gnu.g++.help,comp.lang.c++ Subject: comp.lang.c++ Date: 12 Nov 90 00:17:09 GMT Sender: daemon@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Followup-To: gnu.g++.help Organization: GNUs Not Usenet ----------------------------------------------------------------------