[misc.security] Burglar resistance

blk@MITRE.ORG (Brian L. Kahn) (10/09/90)

I am interested in making my house resistant to breaking and entering,
as opposed to detecting the same with an alarm system.  

* I am considering burglar bars on the basement casement windows.  The
main drawback seems to be fire exit.  These bars swing open, and are
secured with a lock (on the inside).  I'm not too concerned about fire
exit in this case because the windows would be very difficult to use
due to small size and height from the floor, so an extra 30 seconds to
unlock seems minor.  I'm not sure how strong the wood casement that
holds the bars is, however, so this might be more show than effect.

* Traditional wood frame doors seem pretty wimpy.  Our main doors are
kind of drafty in the winter, too.  I think I'll put in steel
doors/frames with deadbolts.  Might pay for themselves after a few
winters. 

* What about the windows?  I just saw a reference to mylar security
film - anyone know what this is?  I don't want bars on the real
windows, and plastic plates (lucite?) with explosive bolts for fire
exit sounds like too much trouble.  The first floor windows on this
house are about six feet up from the ground - how vulnerable is this
in reality?

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zeleznik@CS.UTAH.EDU (Mike Zeleznik) (10/22/90)

I lived in Manhattan (NYC) for back in the late 70's, and had some pretty
heavy duty bars on my apartment windows that had fire escape access (they
had an internal lock that was pretty easy to open form inside, but would be
a bit tuff from outside).

HOWEVER, the burglars simply pried them right out of the brick they were
anchored in.  Perhaps they could have been anchored better, but as they
were, they offered little resistance.  BUT, the noise of the crowbar and
such caused my neighbor to look outside, and on seeing them he yelled, and
they fled.  So the bars DID work! 

Mike

  Michael Zeleznik              Computer Science Dept.
                                University of Utah
  zeleznik@cs.utah.edu          Salt Lake City, UT  84112
                                (801) 581-5617

wb8foz@MTHVAX.CS.MIAMI.EDU (David Lesher) (10/24/90)

One manufacturer makes bars with a latch. The latch is
controlled by a pullbox that looks almost like a normal firebox,
but is connected by heavy_duty choke cable.

They are expensive AND the mfgr is 12 months behind on his orders.....

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