freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) (06/06/91)
I'm reading the "Ericbook", and I like it. I'm not sure I like SGML though. My question: is there some "standard" DTD for "literature", i.e. a DTD that is specifically intended for structuring novels (or collections of short stories). If so: can I ftp it somewhere? Can I ftp any other "standard" DTD (like the CALS DTDs, the AAP DTD, the British library starter document type, etc.) somewhere? Freek "the Pistol Major" Wiedijk E-mail: freek@fwi.uva.nl #P:+/ = #+/P?*+/ = i<<*+/P?*+/ = +/i<<**P?*+/ = +/(i<<*P?)*+/ = +/+/(i<<*P?)**
enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum) (06/09/91)
Freek Wiedijk <freek@fwi.uva.nl> writes: | | I'm reading the "Ericbook", and I like it. I'm not sure I like | SGML though. These statements are, in my opinion, related. Eric van Herwijnen doesn't do SGML full credit in this book, which I found to be more along the lines of "look at all the trouble I had with SGML on some equipment, particularly from IBM". A lot of things have happened since this book was published, and it's in my opinion dated. In addition, it contains a number of annoying errors and confusions. The good introductory book to SGML for non-language-enthusiasts is still to be written. I don't think the market is huge, so it'd have to be written by an idealist. Goldfarb's book is not for users, but it's the best we have on the language. If you are really interested in SGML, Goldfarb's <cit>The SGML Handbook</> <ISBN>0-19-853737-9</> is for you. | My question: is there some "standard" DTD for "literature", i.e. a DTD | that is specifically intended for structuring novels (or collections of | short stories). If so: can I ftp it [from] somewhere? (I assume you meant "ftp from" since "ftp somewhere" implies that you already have them, in which case _I'd_ be most interested in them!) See note from Robin Cover below. Other than this, I don't know of any. | Can I ftp any other "standard" DTD (like the CALS DTDs, the AAP DTD, | the British library starter document type, etc.) [from] somewhere? Brenda O'Busek and Robin Cover gave us pertinent information on CALS and TEI DTD's some time ago: (Brackets ([]) and ellipses (...) indicate edited material. Headers are trimmed.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Message-ID: <6803@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: 4 Apr 91 11:23:07 GMT Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD From: Brenda Obusek <obusek@dtoa3.dt.navy.mil> Subject: Re: Looking for on-line DTD's and/or SGML document files [Erik Naggum] writes: >The CALS specifications (and DTDs) are available from some FTP server >somewhere. ... They are available from the CALS bulletin board operated by NIST, internet address: CALSBBS.CME.NIST.GOV or 129.6.32.173 Brenda O'Busek obusek@dtrc.dt.navy.mil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Message-ID: <451@txsil.lonestar.org> Date: 4 Apr 91 18:22:17 GMT Organization: Summer Inst. of Linguistics, Dallas TX From: Robin Cover <robin@txsil.lonestar.org> Subject: Online SGML DTDs On the availability of DTDs online: (1) A number of DTDs developed by the Text Encoding Initiative (TEI) are available on the BITNET listserver at uicvm.bitnet. For a full title list, send mail or interactive message to listserv@uicvm.bitnet (or listserv@uicvm.uic.edu) with the first line INDEX TEI-L. (You may have to first subscribe to the TEI-L discussion list with the command SUB TEI-L YOUR_NAME). Order the DTDs with the command GET FILENAME FILETYPE. (2) Some CALS-related DTDs are available on Internet durer.cme.nist.gov (129.6.32.4), along with a lot of other CALS standards documents, hypertext browsing software for reading the MIL standards, etc. ... Robin Cover ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hope this helps. (BTW, I keep an archive of all comp.text.sgml messages, complete from April 1991. I'm in the process of writing an "Answers to Frequently Asked Questions", and so far this is the only question which could rate as "frequently asked". If you have other suggestions, please mail me.) </Erik> -- Erik Naggum Professional Programmer +47-2-836-863 Naggum Software Electronic Text <ERIK@NAGGUM.NO> 0118 OSLO, NORWAY Computer Communications <enag@ifi.uio.no>