[comp.unix.programmer] Symbol pronunciation

vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) (04/30/91)

In article <3896@dali> icsu7039@attila.cs.montana.edu (Spannring) writes:
>>In article <6188@flint4.UUCP>, tang@motcid.UUCP (Sam D. Tang) writes:
>> How does one add comments to an awk program?
>You use the pound sign (#) for a comment.

This hasn't been mentioned for a while so thought I'd resurrect it.

The # has several ``names''. Octothorpe, pound, mesh, hash are just a few.

Octothorpe was invented by AT&T so we can ignore that.

Pound is an Americanism, which doesn't exist anywhere else. For
example in the UK, if you mentioned a pound sign, people would expect
that you meant the UK currency symbol (a fancy L with a dash through
it).

Mesh is a silly invention, used in the same vein as rabbit ears for
double quotes (").

The only name for # that most everyone understands is hash -- or then
again maybe it depends on how you were brought up :-)

The naming of symbols is probably a religious issue (like the
pronunciation of char: is it the base of the word `character' or
is it like the word char, as in lightly burn a something).


I now return you to our normal program...

		vic
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coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) (05/01/91)

In article <1991Apr30.085700.10664@grep.co.uk>, vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) writes:
|> In article <3896@dali> icsu7039@attila.cs.montana.edu (Spannring) writes:
|> >>In article <6188@flint4.UUCP>, tang@motcid.UUCP (Sam D. Tang) writes:
|> >> How does one add comments to an awk program?
|> >You use the pound sign (#) for a comment.
|> 
|> This hasn't been mentioned for a while so thought I'd resurrect it.
|> 
|> The # has several ``names''. Octothorpe, pound, mesh, hash are just a few.
|> 
|> Octothorpe was invented by AT&T so we can ignore that.

Never heard this in my life. What on earth is its derivations?

"Number sign" is the earliest one I remember. I always preferred
"sharp" myself.

|> 
|> The naming of symbols is probably a religious issue (like the
|> pronunciation of char: is it the base of the word `character' or
|> is it like the word char, as in lightly burn a something).
|> 

And is _ pronounced "underscore", "underbar", or "underline"? Or just
"under"?
	Robert

pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) (05/01/91)

In article <1991Apr30.085700.10664@grep.co.uk> vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) writes:
=In article <3896@dali> icsu7039@attila.cs.montana.edu (Spannring) writes:
=>>In article <6188@flint4.UUCP>, tang@motcid.UUCP (Sam D. Tang) writes:
=>> How does one add comments to an awk program?
=>You use the pound sign (#) for a comment.
=
=This hasn't been mentioned for a while so thought I'd resurrect it.
=
=The # has several ``names''. Octothorpe, pound, mesh, hash are just a few.

Isn't "sharp" pretty universal?  "Hash" does nothing for me.  ;-)

Pete
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hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder) (05/02/91)

In <1991Apr30.085700.10664@grep.co.uk> vic@grep.co.uk (Victor Gavin) writes:

>This hasn't been mentioned for a while so thought I'd resurrect it.

>The # has several ``names''. Octothorpe, pound, mesh, hash are just a few.

>Octothorpe was invented by AT&T so we can ignore that.

By extension '=' may be called "quadrathorpe" and '-' is a "bithorpe".
Monothorpes are also theoretically possible, but so far none have been
observed in the comp.sci lab :-).

>Pound is an Americanism, which doesn't exist anywhere else. For
>example in the UK, if you mentioned a pound sign, people would expect
>that you meant the UK currency symbol (a fancy L with a dash through
>it).

Actually, in the British variant of ASCII the symbol in position 043
looks just like that.  They pronounce it "pound", obviously.

Shell scripts, C source etc. looks rather funny on such equipment,
except to Brits.  They're used to it.

>Mesh is a silly invention, used in the same vein as rabbit ears for
>double quotes (").

That vein is called INTERCAL.

>The only name for # that most everyone understands is hash -- or then
>again maybe it depends on how you were brought up :-)

Now there's an Americanism.

The most widely recognised name is "sharp" (from music).
Second is "number sign", although that is also an Amercanism.

>The naming of symbols is probably a religious issue (like the
>pronunciation of char: is it the base of the word `character' or
>is it like the word char, as in lightly burn a something).

Agreed.

>		vic
>--

Hans Mulder	hansm@cs.kun.nl