rafee@rangkom.MY (M Rafee Yusoff) (10/15/90)
I was just informed that there is no upgrade path for SCO XENIX customers to move to SCO UNIX platform. It is very unfortunate, if this is so. I like to know whether this is a worldwide policy, or its just outside the US? Rafee MIMOS (Malaysian Inst. of Microelectronic Systems) rafee@rangkom.ism.MY uunet!mimos!rafee
emanuele@overlf.UUCP (Mark A. Emanuele) (10/16/90)
In article <302@rangkom.MY>, rafee@rangkom.MY (M Rafee Yusoff) writes: > I was just informed that there is no upgrade path for > SCO XENIX customers to move to SCO UNIX platform. It is > very unfortunate, if this is so. I like to know whether > this is a worldwide policy, or its just outside the US? This is typical of SCO. Every time they introduce a new version of a product BEND OVER - HERE IT COMES AGAIN $$$$$$$ -- Mark A. Emanuele V.P. Engineering Overleaf, Inc. 500 Route 10 Ledgewood, NJ 07852-9639 attmail!overlf!emanuele (201) 927-3785 Voice (201) 927-5781 fax emanuele@overlf.UUCP
tb@PEM-Stuttgart.de (Tillmann Basien) (10/17/90)
rafee@rangkom.MY (M Rafee Yusoff) writes: >I was just informed that there is no upgrade path for >SCO XENIX customers to move to SCO UNIX platform. It is >very unfortunate, if this is so. I like to know whether >this is a worldwide policy, or its just outside the US? Yes it is a very fine offer from SCO and it is worldwide. Tillmann -- Dipl.Ing. Tillmann Basien Programmentwicklung fuer Microcomputer Vaihinger Str.49, PostBox 810165 +49-711-713047 FAX 7000 Stuttgart 80- West Germany +49-711-713045 PHONE
richardt@sco.COM (Richard Trivett) (10/23/90)
In article <1990Oct17.072908.13613@PEM-Stuttgart.de> tb@PEM-Stuttgart.de (Tillmann Basien) writes: >rafee@rangkom.MY (M Rafee Yusoff) writes: > >>I was just informed that there is no upgrade path for >>SCO XENIX customers to move to SCO UNIX platform. It is >>very unfortunate, if this is so. I like to know whether >>this is a worldwide policy, or its just outside the US? > > Yes it is a very fine offer from SCO and it is worldwide. > Just to clarify, there is an upgrade path available from SCO XENIX to SCO UNIX, both inside the US and internationally. Further, there is an upgrade from XENIX or UNIX to Open Desktop, and from any vendors UNIX to Open Desktop. The upgrade is available from any SCO Advanced Product Center, or from SCO if you have SoftTech or SoftCare (whoops --- does this sound too 'sales' like? Trying to give correct info not encourage flames :-) ). You must send in the N1 floppy from the version you are currently running (as part of the order) to receive the upgrade. - Rich
jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe) (10/23/90)
Sure, formally there is an upgrade procedure from xenix to unix, but it's
cost is prohibitive. To upgrade both the operating and development systems
costs $1100, retail. What really pisses me off is the following quote from
an SCO Background Paper, dated 9/88:
Q: Should I wait for SCO UNIX System V / Release 3.2 to become
available rather than buying SCO XENIX Release 2.3 today?
A: There's no need to wait. SCO XENIX Release 2.3 offers effective
solutions for your current business problems, provides UNIX
binary compatibility, and also provides a direct upgrade path to
SCO UNIX System V/386 Release 3.2.
David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska -- Lincolnshwake@raysnec.UUCP (Ray Shwake) (10/25/90)
jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe) writes: >Sure, formally there is an upgrade procedure from xenix to unix, but it's >cost is prohibitive. To upgrade both the operating and development systems >costs $1100, retail. What really pisses me off is the following quote from >an SCO Background Paper, dated 9/88: I've also looked into the upgrade procedure. SCO directed me to my local distributor who, in checking back with SCO, advised that an "upgrade" would cost more than a new package. As an example, upgrading from my multi- user Xenix/386 to Open Desktop (two-user) would cost $995 (no discount), while a brand new package - which RETAILS for $995! - could be had for around $700! The same pattern held for a straight Xenix-to-UNIX upgrade and the Software Development System. This info comes from two distributors. If this procedure holds, forget about a formal upgrade. Sell or pass on your old Xenix, and buy a new package from one offering a good price.
zaz@jersey (Todd Koeckeritz) (10/27/90)
Are all of you folks really sure you want to do this ? I have gone through the pain of "upgrading" from SCO xenix to SCO unix and have been unable to fully recover from the trauma in the three weeks I have been fighting it. I am not even yet fighting the problem of getting old software running, I am just trying to keep a _very_ vannila version of the OS up. The bugs and problems range from unknown and spurious panics on a machine that ran xenix for a year with few problems to the dialing programs not working for sharing an inbound/outbound line (even using uugetty) to the kernel corrupting its inode table when a xenix file system runs out of inodes. This product should not have been released yet. The bugs mentioned above and most of the other bugs I have come across are not acceptable and should have been caught in any minimally complete alpha/beta testing. I have never run into another OS that has been delivered to me with so many blatant problems (except maybe VAX/VMS, which anyone running unix knows is one big bug, ;-)). Just thought that all of you out on the net should be aware. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Todd Koeckeritz zaz@jersey (crash!orbit!jersey!zaz) | | Euler Solutions, Inc., Minneapolis, MN, USA H:(612)537-4264 W:(612)635-0088| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
bote@csense.uucp (John Boteler) (10/27/90)
jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe) claimed: >Sure, formally there is an upgrade procedure from xenix to unix, but it's >cost is prohibitive. >What really pisses me off is the following quote from >an SCO Background Paper, dated 9/88: > [Xenix] also provides a direct upgrade path to > SCO UNIX System V/386 Release 3.2. Yeah, but you believed 'em! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me... -- John Boteler bote@csense {uunet | ka3ovk}!media!csense!bote SkinnyDipper's Hotline: 703 241 BARE | VOICE only, Touch-Tone(TM) signalling
root@ozdaltx.UUCP (root) (10/28/90)
If you have a Soft Warehouse anywhere in your area, try them for the upgrade/new package. They might be able to order it for you if what you need isn't stocked. For example, 2.3 (386) from SCO/Dist'rs goes for around 599 and up. SW sells it for 469. Quite a savings. This may make a few people mad - but hey, all's fair, etc. Not knowing where you are, you might call their National Accounts number; 1-800-451-SOFT. I don't have anything to do with SW, but I have very seldom been able to get better prices anywhere else. As a side, has anyone heard anything about MicroAge 2000 (Tustin, AZ) filing for bankrupsy? This is the main headquarters.
kory@avatar.avatar.com (Kory Hamzeh) (10/29/90)
I happen to agree with you. SCO Unix is not a stable product. If you did
happen to upgrade, DO NOT USE THE MICROSOFT C COMPILER!!!. It generates
*wrong* code. Use rcc instead.
I can't get usenet stuff to even compile much less work. If any has gotten
usenet B News 2.11 to run *please* lend me a hand.
I got smail 2.5 to compile, but it send 2 copies to e-mail: one to the
proper domain name, and one to user@hostname.UUCP. I think this is some
kind of configuration error on my part. If anyone has gotten smail to work,
*please* help me.
I also couldn't get rn to work. Configure seems to run fine, but it barfs during
compile.
'Patch' seems to act very strange also.
Enough whining.
--kory
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INTERNET: kory@avatar.com davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (10/29/90)
In article <11243@scorn.sco.COM> richardt (Richard Trivett) writes: | Just to clarify, there is an upgrade path available from SCO | XENIX to SCO UNIX, both inside the US and internationally. Further, | there is an upgrade from XENIX or UNIX to Open Desktop, and from | any vendors UNIX to Open Desktop. The upgrade is available | from any SCO Advanced Product Center, or from SCO if you have SoftTech | or SoftCare Wonderful. When asked if I wanted to rened my softcare I asked if I could transfer it to ODT. the answer was no. So I dropped it. Now I can't get the upgrade to ODT from SCO. I really like a lot of SCO products, but I have never seen a company do so many little things to iritate customers. We have people at work who swear that if they can ever get what they need elsewhere they will never buy anything else from SCO. This says a lot for the product and the interface to users. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
tb@PEM-Stuttgart.de (Tillmann Basien) (11/02/90)
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <11243@scorn.sco.COM> richardt (Richard Trivett) writes: >| Just to clarify, there is an upgrade path available from SCO >| XENIX to SCO UNIX, both inside the US and internationally. Further, >| there is an upgrade from XENIX or UNIX to Open Desktop, and from >| any vendors UNIX to Open Desktop. The upgrade is available >| from any SCO Advanced Product Center, or from SCO if you have SoftTech >| or SoftCare > Wonderful. When asked if I wanted to rened my softcare I asked if I >could transfer it to ODT. the answer was no. So I dropped it. Now I >can't get the upgrade to ODT from SCO. The Upgrade to ODT is aviable only in USA, not in Europa !!! > I really like a lot of SCO products, but I have never seen a company >do so many little things to iritate customers. We have people at work >who swear that if they can ever get what they need elsewhere they will >never buy anything else from SCO. This says a lot for the product and >the interface to users. Oh, am sorry. It is right, that SCO will iritate there customers (and there resellers too), but we know, that we must be carful with any announcement of SCO. We have many (100) Systems running with SCO XENIX/UNIX and ODT all works well. -- Dipl.Ing. Tillmann Basien Programmentwicklung fuer Microcomputer Vaihinger Str.49, PostBox 810165 +49-711-713047 FAX 7000 Stuttgart 80- West Germany +49-711-713045 PHONE
jpr@jpradley.uucp (Jean-Pierre Radley) (11/04/90)
In article <1990Oct27.044011.632@jersey> zaz@jersey.UUCP (Todd Koeckeritz) writes: >Are all of you folks really sure you want to do this ? I have gone >through the pain of "upgrading" from SCO xenix to SCO unix and have >been unable to fully recover from the trauma in the three weeks I have >been fighting it. >.... Which version of SCO Unix are you referring to? -- Jean-Pierre Radley HIGH-Q jpr@jpradley CIS: 72160,1341