[comp.unix.xenix.sco] Using a SCSI tape drive

jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) (12/09/90)

In article <77205@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
>Does anyone know how to use a SCSI tape drive with SCO Xenix 386 or
>any other version of SCO Xenix?  I need to know what the device name
>is (ie: /dev/rct), and it's major and minor device numbers (which ls
>-l would tell).  I'm stuck!  Can anyone help?

Any reason you couldn't just run "/etc/mkdev tape" and follow the menu
prompts?
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 Jean-Pierre Radley	    NYC Public Unix	jpr@jpr.com	CIS: 72160,1341

huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) (12/09/90)

In article <1990Dec09.073155.10343@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.UUCP (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
| In article <77205@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
| >Does anyone know how to use a SCSI tape drive with SCO Xenix 386 or
| >any other version of SCO Xenix?  I need to know what the device name
| >is (ie: /dev/rct), and it's major and minor device numbers (which ls
| >-l would tell).  I'm stuck!  Can anyone help?
| 
| Any reason you couldn't just run "/etc/mkdev tape" and follow the menu
| prompts?
| -- 
| 
|  Jean-Pierre Radley	    NYC Public Unix	jpr@jpr.com	CIS: 72160,1341

When I run "mkdev tape" it doesn't have an option for adding a SCSI
tape drive!  On page A-35 of the release notes it says, "Use mkdev
tape to add a tapedrive to the system, SCSI or any other type."
However, when I run "mkdev tape" it has options for adding cartridge
tapes, mini-cartridges, and QIC drives, but not for SCSI tape drives!
It has an option for removing the SCSI tape drive, and like a
stupidino I tried that (hoping that afterward it would allow me to add
the SCSI tape drive), but it didn't give me anymore options afterward.
The SCSI hard disk drivers and device names seem to be there already.
I think I only need to get the correct information to use "mknod" to
create the special device file in /dev, and then I'll be in
business...  That's why I'm trying to find the usual device name, and
the correct major and minor device numbers.

Thanks for asking!


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;;  *  Haydn Huntley    huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu  *
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jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) (12/10/90)

In article <77287@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
>In article <1990Dec09.073155.10343@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.UUCP (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
>| In article <77205@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
>| >Does anyone know how to use a SCSI tape drive with SCO Xenix 386 or
>| >any other version of SCO Xenix?  I need to know what the device name
>| >is (ie: /dev/rct), and it's major and minor device numbers (which ls
>| >-l would tell).  I'm stuck!  Can anyone help?
>| 
>| Any reason you couldn't just run "/etc/mkdev tape" and follow the menu
>| prompts?
>
>When I run "mkdev tape" it doesn't have an option for adding a SCSI
>tape drive! 

I don't know what version of SCO Xenix you have, since you didn't mention, but
I have 2.3.2, and the script for sure have a choice #4 under Install, which
reads SCSI.

Unless it's because I started out with 2.2.4, and got the GT upgrade, which is
designed to work with SCSI. If your version of the kernel doesn't have the SCSI
drivers, defining a device is the least of your problems.

-- 

 Jean-Pierre Radley	    NYC Public Unix	jpr@jpr.com	CIS: 72160,1341

huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) (12/11/90)

In article <1990Dec09.204024.14866@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.UUCP (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
| In article <77287@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
| >In article <1990Dec09.073155.10343@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.UUCP (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
| >| In article <77205@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
| >| >Does anyone know how to use a SCSI tape drive with SCO Xenix 386 or
| >| >any other version of SCO Xenix?  I need to know what the device name
| >| >is (ie: /dev/rct), and it's major and minor device numbers (which ls
| >| >-l would tell).  I'm stuck!  Can anyone help?
| >| 
| >| Any reason you couldn't just run "/etc/mkdev tape" and follow the menu
| >| prompts?
| >
| >When I run "mkdev tape" it doesn't have an option for adding a SCSI
| >tape drive! 
| 
| I don't know what version of SCO Xenix you have, since you didn't mention, but
| I have 2.3.2, and the script for sure have a choice #4 under Install, which
| reads SCSI.
| 
| Unless it's because I started out with 2.2.4, and got the GT
| upgrade, which is designed to work with SCSI. If your version 
| of the kernel doesn't have the SCSI drivers, defining a device
| is the least of your problems.

I hacked my /usr/lib/mkdev/tape file to put in option #4 to add a SCSI
drive, but it still didn't work!  So today I called SCO Tech Support,
and they told me that I had bought an old version, and that my version
didn't have the SCSI drivers!  No wonder it didn't work!  However the
manuals I have, in several places say that the SCSI drivers should be
in there.  SCO said that they'd let me upgrade to the latest version
for $320, and since we don't seem to have any other options, we gave
them our credit card.  The personnel at SCO were very nice and
helpful, and isolated the problem within 15 minutes!  This is in
contrast to our mail order dealer, Software Add-Ons, who wouldn't even
admit that they'd sold us a product that was 8 months old!  Both of
the expensive software packages we bought from them were old versions,
and in both cases they were quite unhelpful.  I am writing this to
warn others from purchasing from them!  Their prices are pretty good,
but their service is terribly, and in our case they sold us old junk
which has been expensive to upgrade!  I wish I'd purchased from a more
honest dealer!

--Haydn


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;;  *  Haydn Huntley    huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu  *
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davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (12/13/90)

In article <77535@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:

| I hacked my /usr/lib/mkdev/tape file to put in option #4 to add a SCSI
| drive, but it still didn't work!  So today I called SCO Tech Support,
| and they told me that I had bought an old version, and that my version
| didn't have the SCSI drivers!  No wonder it didn't work!  However the
| manuals I have, in several places say that the SCSI drivers should be
| in there.  SCO said that they'd let me upgrade to the latest version
| for $320, and since we don't seem to have any other options, we gave
| them our credit card.  The personnel at SCO were very nice and
| helpful, and isolated the problem within 15 minutes!  This is in
| contrast to our mail order dealer, Software Add-Ons, who wouldn't even
| admit that they'd sold us a product that was 8 months old!  Both of
| the expensive software packages we bought from them were old versions,
| and in both cases they were quite unhelpful.  I am writing this to
| warn others from purchasing from them!  Their prices are pretty good,
| but their service is terribly, and in our case they sold us old junk
| which has been expensive to upgrade!  I wish I'd purchased from a more
| honest dealer!

  You have misunderstood the dealer, SCO, and two other posters. Try to
understand, there are two versions Xenix, one which has SCSI, one which
doesn't. They are not "old and new" they are two products, with two
names, and two prices.

  If you clearly stated to the dealer that you wanted the GT (SCSI)
version and he sold you the other, then show him the P.O. saying SCSI or
GT and tell him to replace it at his cost. If you failed to understand
what you needed (and your posting suggests you still don't realize that
there are two products), or failed to tell the dealer what you needed,
then the fault is yours, and all the dealer did was sell you the product
at a good price, by your own admission.

  The newest, freshest, best, and most costly release of standard Xenix
will not support SCSI, you need the GT version.
-- 
bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen)
    sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX
    moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list
"Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me

bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) (12/16/90)

In article <2629@sixhub.UUCP-> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes:
->In article <77535@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> huntley@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Haydn Huntley) writes:
->
->| I hacked my /usr/lib/mkdev/tape file to put in option #4 to add a SCSI
->| drive, but it still didn't work!  So today I called SCO Tech Support,

->  You have misunderstood the dealer, SCO, and two other posters. Try to
->understand, there are two versions Xenix, one which has SCSI, one which
->doesn't. They are not "old and new" they are two products, with two
->names, and two prices.
.
Haven't both versions been combined to one version as of late this summer
and the GT version dropped?

I seem to remember seeing this on the net, but I may be wrong.  I installed
a stock MCA version in September and it asked whether there was a SCSI card
installed or not.  ANd this was before the support of IBMs SCSI cards.
-- 
Bill Vermillion - UUCP: uunet!tarpit!bilver!bill
                      : bill@bilver.UUCP

news@m2xenix.psg.com (Randy Bush) (12/23/90)

bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

> Haven't both versions been combined to one version as of late this summer
> and the GT version dropped?

That's what we thought, and that's what SCO told us on the phone when we
ordered.  But, to our surprise and dismay, the diskettes we received in
November were the AT version.

Of course they replaced them immediately with apologies.
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