[comp.unix.xenix.sco] IBM 3151 Terminals...

tts@ttank.ttank.com (Karl Bunch) (12/26/90)

Has anyone had any real success with the IBM 3151 terminals under
SCO Xenix?  We have the 'latest-greatest' version of termcap from SCO.
They seem to feel everything is working fine.  But we have misc. screen
garbage, cursor hops (just seems to move by itself but is very repeatable).

We are using SCO Office Portfolio etc.  I personally use the system from a
shell all the time and the terminals still act unreliable.  As an example
if we 'stty tabs' the terminal flips out.  If you do: 'stty tabs;df -v' the
screen will clear/home and display only some parts of the df.  We are running
the terminals off of a Model 80 with the Digiboard C/X terminal concentrators.

I have experienced these types of problems at another customer site and
always attributed it to not having the terminal reference to tune the
termcap.. Well now I have the 500 page reference and haven't the slightest
idea were to start..

BTW we are trying to run the terminals at 38,400 but I even turned them
down to 300 baud and got the same results.

Thanks in advance,
Karl
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silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) (12/28/90)

In article <1990Dec26.055509.10282@ttank.ttank.com> karl@ttank.ttank.com writes:
$Has anyone had any real success with the IBM 3151 terminals under
$SCO Xenix?  We have the 'latest-greatest' version of termcap from SCO.
$They seem to feel everything is working fine.  But we have misc. screen
$garbage, cursor hops (just seems to move by itself but is very repeatable).

[further description removed]

   It sounds to me like your flow control, if any, isn't working properly
and you're sending data (particularly control codes) faster than the
terminal can handle it.  I've had similar problems with IBM 3164s.  Try
doing tests that send a few escape sequences (the more they do, the better;
clearing the screen and tabbing around might be good choices) and then run
a command that sends several lines of output.  If you start losing bits,
then it probably means that you're sending data before the terminal has
finished processing the control codes.
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tts@ttank.ttank.com (Karl Bunch) (12/29/90)

In <1990Dec27.223700.20857@xrtll.uucp> silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) writes:
>In article <1990Dec26.055509.10282@ttank.ttank.com> karl@ttank.ttank.com wtote:
>$Has anyone had any real success with the IBM 3151 terminals under
>$SCO Xenix?  We have the 'latest-greatest' version of termcap from SCO.
>$They seem to feel everything is working fine.  But we have misc. screen
>$garbage, cursor hops (just seems to move by itself but is very repeatable).

>[further description removed]

>   It sounds to me like your flow control, if any, isn't working properly..

Yes well I have tried running the terminals at 300 baud.  And It doesn't
seem to make a difference.  If these terminals have flow control problems
at 300 baud then we need a big dumpster.. 

Thanks,
Karl
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mike@bria.AIX (Mike Stefanik/78125) (12/30/90)

In article <1990Dec26.055509.10282@ttank.ttank.com>, tts@ttank.ttank.com (Karl Bunch) writes:
> Has anyone had any real success with the IBM 3151 terminals under
> SCO Xenix?  We have the 'latest-greatest' version of termcap from SCO.
> They seem to feel everything is working fine.  But we have misc. screen
> garbage, cursor hops (just seems to move by itself but is very repeatable).
[deleted]
> BTW we are trying to run the terminals at 38,400 but I even turned them
> down to 300 baud and got the same results.

I use an IBM3151 on an Intel 386 running XENIX 2.3.3 and don't have any
problems at all ... here's my setup:

	Machine Mode		IBM3151
	Screen			Normal
	Row and Columns		24 x 80
	Scroll			JUMP
	Auto LF			OFF
	Line Wrap		ON
	Operating Mode		ECHO
	Line Speed (bps)	9600
	Word Length		8
	Parity			NO
	Stop Bit		1
	Turnaround Character	ETX
	Interface		RS-232
	Line Control		IPRTS
	Break Signal (ms)	500
	Send Null Suppress	ON
	Enter			RETURN
	Return			FIELD	
	New Line		CR
	Send			LINE
	Insert Character	MODE

And here is the termcap entry that I use:

ib|ibm3151|ibm3161|IBM 3151/3161 terminal:\
        :am:mi:cr=^M:sf=^J:co#80:\
        :it#8:li#24:kI=\EP\040\010:cd=\EJ:ce=\EI:\
        :cm=\EY%+\40%+\40:cl=\EH\EJ:dc=\EQ:dl=\EO:do=\EB:\
        :le=\ED:mb=\E4D:md=\E4H:me=\E4@:mk=\E4P:\
        :mr=\E4A:nd=\EC:se=\E4@:so=\E4A:ue=\E4@:\
        :up=\EA:us=\E4B:ka=\E\0401:kA=\EN:kb=^H:\
        :kC=\EL^M:kd=\EB:kD=\EQ:kE=\EI:kh=\EH:kP=:\kN=:\
        :kl=\ED:kL=\EO:kr=\EC:kS=\EJ:kt=\E1:ko=^I:kO=\E2:\
        :kT=\E0:ku=\EA:k1=\Ea^J:k2=\Eb^J:k3=\Ec^J:kw=\EI:\
        :k4=\Ed^J:k5=\Ee^J:k6=\Ef^J:k7=\Eg^J:k8=\Eh^J:\
        :k9=\Ei^J:ti=\E>A:te=\E>A:po=\E^P^R:pf=\E^P^T:ve=:vs=:vi=:\
        :bx=\354\361\353\370\352\355\367\365\366\364\356:

Now I have experienced a certain "jerk" when running the 3151's at 38.4K,
but other than that, all has been well.  Hope this helps.

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