jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay A. Snyder) (12/25/90)
$ uucp wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z ~uucp yeilds: illegal syntax wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? J.
mpd@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) (12/26/90)
jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay A. Snyder) writes: >$ uucp wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z ~uucp Interesting. >yeilds: >illegal syntax wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z Understandably. >How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? You don't. Even assuming we allowed rayssd to UUCP files from us, each site in your path would also have to allow the calling site to UUCP to/from them. Sorry to break it to you, but either give up, or break down and call long distance. MD -- -- Michael P. Deignan, President -- Small Business Systems, Inc. -- -- Domain: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com -- Box 17220, Esmond, RI 02917 -- -- UUCP: ...uunet!rayssd!anomaly!mpd -- Telebit: +1 401 455 0347 -- -- XENIX Archives: login: xxcp, password: xenix Index: ~/SOFTLIST --
pacolley@violet.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Colley) (12/29/90)
In article <88@gdx.UUCP> jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay A. Snyder) writes: > >$ uucp wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z ~uucp > >yeilds: > >illegal syntax wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z > >How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? Indirect UUCP doesn't work for me either. So far, the only reply has been along the lines of "tough, call direct". Which doesn't answer the question! The manual claims it's fine, but any attempt to have a!b!file as source gives "illegal syntax". Assuming I have permissions from the machines in the path, what's the problem? Better yet, what's the fix? Reason for doing this: I have accounts on two machines, which are connected through a third machine. I'd like to request files from the machine I'm working on, instead of having to login to the remote machine and send the files (not always easy to do). A direct UUCP connection isn't possible between the two machines I'm interested in. Any constructive advice appreciated. - Paul Colley pacolley@violet.waterloo.edu or .ca "Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of" - Ken Burnside
jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) (12/29/90)
In article <1990Dec28.190803.19672@watdragon.waterloo.edu> pacolley@violet.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Colley) writes: >In article <88@gdx.UUCP> jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay A. Snyder) writes: >> >>$ uucp wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z ~uucp >> >>yeilds: >> >>illegal syntax wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z >> >>How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? > >Indirect UUCP doesn't work for me either. So far, the only reply has >been along the lines of "tough, call direct". > >Which doesn't answer the question! The manual claims it's fine, but >any attempt to have a!b!file as source gives "illegal syntax". Assuming >I have permissions from the machines in the path, what's the problem? The uucp man page offers the syntax: uucp source.files destination.file and then goes on to talk about how a "file name" may be of the form a!b!..!file. This is disingenuous and not fair, since there really IS a differerence in what's OK to actually type for source.files as opposed to destination.file. There is a comment line in the source code which is traduced by the man page. The comment is: /* source files can have at most one ! */ The code which follows disallows more than one 'bang' in a source.files specification but the man page doesn't tell you this! (Hardly the only example of a less than perfect man page, is it?) It's designed that way, IOW. Jean-Pierre Radley NYC Public Unix jpr@jpr.com CIS: 72160,1341
jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) (12/31/90)
In article <1990Dec30.085551.21619@xenitec.on.ca> edhew@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew) writes: >In article <892@anomaly.sbs.com> mpd@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes: >>>How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? >> >>You don't. Even assuming we allowed rayssd to UUCP files from us, each >>site in your path would also have to allow the calling site to UUCP to/from >>them. >> >>Sorry to break it to you, but either give up, or break down and call long >>distance. > >We could argue whether the uucp man page is broken as we did in >sco.list a few months back, or I could suggest that "uuencode" >is the common tool used to allow one to email non-ascii files >along a multiple hop path. That's fine if I have files and want to send them to you across three hops. I don't thank that you, however, can cause those file to be sent by issuing a command on your machine. You have to ask me to cause the files to be mailed. Jean-Pierre Radley NYC Public Unix jpr@jpr.com CIS: 72160,1341
shawn@marilyn.UUCP (Shawn P. Stanley) (12/31/90)
In article <1990Dec28.190803.19672@watdragon.waterloo.edu> pacolley@violet.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Colley) writes: >Indirect UUCP doesn't work for me either. So far, the only reply has >been along the lines of "tough, call direct". Perhaps one uux along the route is "broken". It has to be able to send a file more than one hop. Another consideration is that many flavors of uucp won't send a file greater than a certain size; you might try splitting it up into pieces and combining them on the receiving end. (Maybe you can split the file up using a uux command, assuming the permissions are set, and then request the various pieces...?) -- Shawn P. Stanley shawn@marilyn.marilyn.mn.org tcnet!marilyn!shawn {rosevax,crash}!orbit!marilyn!shawn
chrisc@astroatc.UUCP (Chris Czerwinski) (01/04/91)
In article <1990Dec28.190803.19672@watdragon.waterloo.edu> pacolley@violet.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Colley) writes: :-)In article <88@gdx.UUCP> jay@gdx.UUCP (Jay A. Snyder) writes: :-)> :-)>$ uucp wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z ~uucp :-)> :-)>yeilds: :-)> :-)>illegal syntax wa3wbu!eds1!psuvax1!rutgers!uunet!rayssd!anomaly!/usr/spool/uucppublic/archives/egrep.tar.Z :-)> :-)>How do I get this file via uucp w/o a direct connection to anomaly? :-) :-)Indirect UUCP doesn't work for me either. So far, the only reply has :-)been along the lines of "tough, call direct". :-) :-)Which doesn't answer the question! The manual claims it's fine, but :-)any attempt to have a!b!file as source gives "illegal syntax". Assuming :-)I have permissions from the machines in the path, what's the problem? :-) :-)Better yet, what's the fix? :-) I encountered this problem when I first started experimenting with uucp. One thing you may want to try is to precede your ! with \ (ie. a\!b\!file) This will have the shell interpret the ! literally instead of a command such as !!... -- USENET, a cooperatively run anarchic worldwide bulletin-board that receives an estimated 8 Mbytes of traffic daily and is received by more than 1 million nodes worldwide, from New York to Moscow. -Keep this in mind, I don't. Chris Czerwinski ...!uunet!uwvax!astroatc!chrisc Astronautics Corp. of America