itkin@mrspoc.Transact.COM (Steven M. List) (03/26/91)
I'm not normally moved to complain quite so publicly about a service someone is providing for free. But the SCO-LIST mailing list has gone from being something useful or potentially useful to a real PAIN! The blame is being placed on UUNET, where the list is maintained. Every member of the list has been receiving DOZENS of copies of each message during the past week. One or two duplicates now and then is acceptable, but this is RIDICULOUS. Even worse is that it's now a meta-problem - the messages that are being duplicated are the complaints about duplicate messages! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!! So I'm saying something publicly. I maintain mailing lists myself, and have never subjected my members to anything like this. Either UUNET or the list administrator MUST take some responsibility for this. While I'm not paying for it directly, it is costing me in phone calls and time. Those who are PAYING UUNET should be up in arms! They're paying for NOISE! I feel much better now. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ : Steven List @ Transact Software, Inc. :^>~ : : Chairman, Unify User Group of Northern California : : itkin@Transact.COM :
mtv@milton.u.washington.edu (David Schanen) (03/28/91)
In article <1991Mar25.220919.9235@mrspoc.Transact.COM> steven@Transact.COM writes: ...stuff deleted... >every member of the list has been receiving DOZENS of copies of each message >during the past week. One or two duplicates now and then is acceptable, ...more stuff deleted... Well not every member, in fact I haven't seen any mail at all from the list for some time, I wonder why? It seems the mail problems run even deeper than a bad address somewhere. >Either UUNET or the list administrator MUST take some responsibility for this. Agreed! Send flames to 'owner-sco-list@uunet.uu.net'! -Dave -- Inet: mtv@milton.u.washington.edu * 8kyu * UUNET: ...uunet!uw-beaver!u!mtv
bent@lccinc.UUCP (Ben Taylor) (03/28/91)
mtv@milton.u.washington.edu (David Schanen) writes: >In article <1991Mar25.220919.9235@mrspoc.Transact.COM> steven@Transact.COM writes: > ...stuff deleted... >>every member of the list has been receiving DOZENS of copies of each message >>during the past week. One or two duplicates now and then is acceptable, The list is pretty useful. The duplicates are generally not too big a deal but this week was pretty bad. > ...more stuff deleted... >Well not every member, in fact I haven't seen any mail at all from the list >for some time, I wonder why? It seems the mail problems run even deeper than >a bad address somewhere. Funny. I realized when I wasn't getting any more mail from the list. I added myself again and was back on the list. The reason I wasn't getting any mail from the list was that my mailer died and sent a rejected message back to the list. When this happens, you get unsubscribed from the list. Must have been an avid reader of the list to make sure you got back on the list when you realized this.... >>Either UUNET or the list administrator MUST take some responsibility for this. UUNET runs sendmail. It's not likely to change anytime soon considering the amount of traffic they support. Part of the dups problem is that sendmail hoses up and dies, and then restarts at the beginning of the address list. Dave has been trying to get the list moved someplace else, but the large number of non-volunteers makes this difficult. What are you doing to help the problem? I spent time on the phone with UUNET and Dave Ambrust, rather than suggest we flame the moderator. >Agreed! Send flames to 'owner-sco-list@uunet.uu.net'! Ah, folks of little action, frantic fingers and clueless days. > -Dave >-- > Inet: mtv@milton.u.washington.edu * 8kyu * UUNET: ...uunet!uw-beaver!u!mtv Ben Taylor Systems Administrator LCC Incorporated uunet!lccinc!bent (703) 516-7377 "What I say in mine. My company pays me for work, not opinions"