gary@farcomp.UUCP (Gary Morrell) (01/23/91)
I need some light shed on internet access. Currently my sight has
timed dial up access to a number of local unix machines. This provides
us with a news feed and a flow of e-mail. We would like to, however,
get a full time connection. So the questions are: are there companys
that will provide this service; what are the security implications; is
there a good book that someone would like to recomend; what is the
proper protocol in asking a site to provide a full time feed; isn't
it somewhat of a strain (i.e. cpu time, security, installation, etc.)
for a site to provide an internet feed? Any other pertinent info on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
naively yours,
Gary Morrell emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) (01/30/91)
In article <758@faatcrl.UUCP> warb@faatcrl.UUCP (Dan Warburton) writes:
Unlike Usenet connection to the Internet is going to cost you.
Yes, money will change hands. It need not be a huge sum, but
depending where you are the amount can vary substantially.
You do not
"get a site to feed you" , you get a leased line to the nearest internet
site,
Not necessarily a leased line; it's possible to run TCP/IP over
microwave ethernet, dial-up phone lines, privately pulled cables, or
whatever makes good economic sense.
get internet address from the NIC,
This is free (for now).
and find an alternative nameserver.
Also free.
Least cost is about 20kl to get started with a 19.2 connection(plus line costs).
I assume this is $20K ? Again not necessarily. In some parts of the
world there is competition among network access providers; depending
on where you are located, what equipment you are able to provide, and
local tarriffs, the cost can be lower. Low-speed intermittent dial-up
IP as provided by (e.g.) CERFnet is $250/organization + $25/id/month +
$5/hour; other providers like PSI, Alternet, various NSF regionals all
may have their own stuff.
Internet connections are reserved for Research and Dev. , commercial use is
forbidden.
Not true. There are restrictions on packets which traverse the NSFnet
backbone. Some network access providers have their own cross-country
links on which you are free to send any sort of traffic you might want
to send (e.g. invoices) as long as it does not transit a restricted
network.
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--Ed
emv@ox.comcbp@icc.com (Chris Preston) (02/01/91)
In article <EMV.91Jan30013256@crane.aa.ox.com> emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) writes: >In article <758@faatcrl.UUCP> warb@faatcrl.UUCP (Dan Warburton) writes: [various stuff without details or options deleted] Ok, I have looked into this. Some actual details and options are needed here, IMHO, since all that has been mentioned thusfar is generalities. Note in advance that I have no affiliation with either of these organizations, and I am not even a satisified customer yet because I'm trying to find somebody to pay for this: Performance Systems International is running T-1 backbones through various cities throughout the United States. I do not have the list yet, as I have not talked to them in about a month; however, you may contact them at smith@psi.com. The cost in under $1000/year ($225/quarter) to run modems up to 19.2 to local modem lines that *they* will put in on the other end which will connect to their T-1 lines. They also offer full connectivity (if you are in one of their service areas) directly to the Internet, and charge a straight fee without a per packet charge (how it works going across net servers, I have no idea). Again, it depends on whether they are supporting your city/area (though they told me they were expanding by 25 additional cities/areas this year). Uunet also has the same kinds of services, though you will typically have to foot the bill for phoning or having a leased line to them. This *is* more expensive, with a $2/hr connect fee, if you pay the phone, and combination charges on an 800 number depending on day/night rates. They will also do a leased line and act as a gate and charge a flat rate and provide maintenance and installation. In both cases the cost for a full fledged connection to the Internet was well under $20,000, including installation of the imp gate and on site maintenance. The primary restriction, again, is that to gate into/through NSFnet requires R&D, academia or defense contractor work. I have not yet delved into the extent of connectivity this would give one in reaching worthwhile sites as I am otherwise busy at the moment. For more information from Performance Systems International - PSI inc. Suite 1100 Reston, VA 22091 1 800 827-7482 703-620-6651 703-620-4586 uupsi@psi.com info@psi.com smith@psi.com - Dave Smith - helpfull person there For more information from UUNET UUNET Technologies, Inc. 3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570 Falls Church, VA 22042 +1 703 876 5050 (voice) info@uunet.uu.net leonard@uunet.uu.net - Lori Leonard - helpfull person there cbp --- Of course these are opinions, you silly foooelll. Kurt Waldheim to Saddam Hussein: "Saddam, I knew Hitler, and believe me, you're no Adolf Hitler." Recent Quote - "Were fighting for basic American principles of right and wrong" - George Bush - ok, elect the Immir in '92.