roy@alfrat.uucp (Roy Phillips) (09/04/90)
Can anyone help out? There are lots of sites offering highly
desireable utilities, etc., out there (Emacs, to name one) that
all require 'ftp' - which we don't happen to have, and which I
know precisely squat about ... If anybody can enlighten me, and
perhaps point me in the direction of the necessary source, I'd
be much obliged! (no ftp, please!). We are running AT&T/Intel
Unix SysV R3 on i386/i486 hardware (Intel 303, 520).
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------moraes@cs.toronto.edu (Mark Moraes) (09/04/90)
I've posted a note on it to comp.unix.questions. This has nothing to do with internals or SysV on 386s. Mark.
wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl (Wietse Venema) (09/04/90)
roy@alfrat.uucp (Roy Phillips) asks:
>[how to access ftp archives from a host that is not on internet]
There is a mail server that can pick up files for you via ftp and
then mail them to you. Try sending a message with the contents:
help
to bitftp@pucc.bitnet. Followups directed to comp.sources.wanted.jdeitch@jadpc.cts.com (Jim Deitch) (09/04/90)
In article <1990Sep3.173507.16986@nshore.uucp> uunet!ncoast!nshore!steve (Stephen J. Walick) writes: >As quoted from <121@alfrat.uucp> by roy@alfrat.uucp (Roy Phillips): > >+--------------- >| Can anyone help out? There are lots of sites offering highly >| desireable utilities, etc., out there (Emacs, to name one) that >| all require 'ftp' - which we don't happen to have, and which I >| know precisely squat about ... If anybody can enlighten me, and >| perhaps point me in the direction of the necessary source, I'd >| be much obliged! (no ftp, please!). We are running AT&T/Intel >| Unix SysV R3 on i386/i486 hardware (Intel 303, 520). >+--------------- > >Can I ask that this information be posted. I, too, am in same category >knowing nothning about 'ftp' and wishing that I could connect to a site >to get the souces that are very desirale. Can, perhaps, < comp.misc > >post an article defining 'FTP' besides just "listing" the sites? I >think a lot of 'net' users would be most grateful. Steve Walick > >-- > >Stephen J. Walick, Asst Sysop of the < XBBS > program at NCoast.ORG >uunet!ncoast!nshore!steve nshore!steve@ncoast.org Try sending mail to bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu and have the body of the message read: help Nothing else. You will get back a message telling you how to use the Bitnet FTP mail service. You can get most of the ftp stuff you see advertised through this service delivered in your mailbox. Jim -- UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!jadpc!jdeitch ARPA: crash!jadpc!jdeitch@nosc.mil INET: jdeitch@jadpc.cts.com
tkevans@oss670.UUCP (Tim Evans) (09/08/90)
In <4@jadpc.cts.com> jdeitch@jadpc.cts.com (Jim Deitch) writes: >In article <1990Sep3.173507.16986@nshore.uucp> uunet!ncoast!nshore!steve (Stephen J. Walick) writes: >>As quoted from <121@alfrat.uucp> by roy@alfrat.uucp (Roy Phillips): >> >>+--------------- >>| Can anyone help out? There are lots of sites offering highly >>| desireable utilities, etc., out there (Emacs, to name one) that >>| all require 'ftp' - which we don't happen to have, and which I >Try sending mail to bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu and have the body of >the message read: >help The trouble with these instructions is that they _presume_ the sender is on the Internet: you tell them to send mail to an Internet address (actually, to a bitnet address). These people don't have Internet access, or they wouldn't have to ask about how to do 'ftp'. If you are on the UUCP network, direct your mail to (assuming you have access somehow to uunet): ...!uunet!bucc.princeton.edu!bitftp -- cc:Mail Tim K. Evans at ~OSS UUCP ...!{rutgers|ames|uunet}!mimsy!woodb!tkevans INTERNET tkevans%woodb@mimsy.umd.edu PHONE: (301) 965-3286 US MAIL 6401 Security Blvd, 2-Q-2 Operations, Baltimore, MD 21235
calhoun@usaos.uucp (Warren D. Calhoun) (09/09/90)
In <526@oss670.UUCP> tkevans@oss670.UUCP (Tim Evans) writes: >>Try sending mail to bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu and have the body of >>the message read: >>help >The trouble with these instructions is that they _presume_ the sender >is on the Internet: you tell them to send mail to an Internet >address (actually, to a bitnet address). These people don't have >Internet access, or they wouldn't have to ask about how to do >'ftp'. >If you are on the UUCP network, direct your mail to (assuming you have >access somehow to uunet): >...!uunet!bucc.princeton.edu!bitftp I'm not "on the Internet" but I have no problem mailing to an "Internet" address. I don't think the instructions were at all presumptuous. True, including a bang-path might have been nice for those who couldn't figure it out (and who also don't have access to a smart mailer), but I doubt that the author intended to be giving a lesson on addressing schemes. In point of fact, I am a UUCP only site and, upon reading the orginal post, immediately tried it. Using the address supplied worked perfectly. -- | SSG W.D. Calhoun | UUCP: ...!uunet!usaos!calhoun | | Gas Turbine Engine (52F) Branch | INTERNET: calhoun%usaos@uunet.uu.net | | The U.S. Army Ordnance School | CompUServe: 76336.2212@compuserve.com | | Fort Belvoir, Virginia 22060 | Voice: (703) 664-3396/3595 |