cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (10/27/90)
For those of you who are asking the questions, here is a compilation
of the information regarding availability of System V R4.0 for *86 based
systems:
First off, some general information. Currently all vendors have included
the following packages in their release:
Operating System (2-user)
Software Development System
NFS, RFS
TCP/IP
X11R3
Openlook
For those of you that don't know, System V.4 includes the following
features:
BSD 4.3 compatibility (supports symbolic links, BSD
file system, safe signals, etc)
New Virtual memory manager (from Sun OS)
Dynamic system tunable tables allocation
Memory mapped files
ANSI C Compiler
New object file format (ELF - Extensible Linking Format)
New dynamic shared library linking
K-Shell
With regard to pricing, I will mention that although the OS royalty
for a 2 user system has actually gone down since S5R3.2, the royalties
for the add-on packages, plus the royalty for the multi-user extension
add up to a greater overall royalty on the S5V4 product (vs the S5R3
product). Those of us who had been expecting lower pricing because of
AT&T's announcement of lower royalties shouldn't hold our breath.
The following vendors have at least said something about S5R4:
UHC 713-782-2700 email: uunet!uhc!support
Has released a production version of S5R4. Due to comments
here (in comp.unix.sysv386) they will be adding on-line
manual pages as of next week. Release 2.0 is due at the
end of Nov and will include several bug fixes and X/News
interface to the docs (a la AIX). X11R4 w/Motif 1.1 is
also due at the end of Nov.
Pricing: $1,995 (Unlimited Users)
Media: 1/4" cartridge, 1.2 & 1.44 MB floppies
Price includes 30 days unlimited hotline support. Additional
support is available under support contract.
Intel
Intel does not sell the package directly, they sell it through
retailers. The retailer that I have delt with is Programmers
Connection (800-336-1166). They do not have it in stock, but
say they can get it in 5 days.
This is a *developers* release only. It is not meant to be
installed by end-users.
Basic system: $1,119 (1-2 user)
1,339 (unlimited user)
On-Line manual pages: 245
Media: 1/4" cartridge, 1.2 & 1.44 MB floppies
Intel also offers an upgrade to for any existing 3.2 user.
The upgrade is $395 and only includes the software. Documents
are not included (cost is approx $450). This is only available
on tape and they say the OS can be picky about which tape
drives it supports.
Intel stated that the upgrade should be available from any
retailer, but Programmer's connection does not sell it.
Microport 800-FOR-UNIX
Has released S5R4. package includes all of the above listed
items. Pricing is as follows:
Basic system: $1,500 (1-2 user)
2,000 (unlimited user)
Developer package: $2,500 (includes 1 year of
hotline support, upgrades,
and on-line manual pages)
System is only available on 1/4" cartridge tape (with a 1.2 or
1.44 MB boot floppy)
Price includes 30 days unlimited hotline support. Additional
support is available under support contract.
Interactive 800-346-7111
Is working on S5R4, but will probably not release it until
next year some time.
ESIX 415-683-ESIX
Is working on S5R4, but will probably not release it until
next year also.
SCO
Announced that they will NOT be releasing a System V.4
product, although they will continue to enhance the S5R3
product and maintain compatibility with the new Intel ABI.
AT&T
I have no info on their product, although I have seen
questions flying around from people that have the product,
so it is available somewhere.
Any corrections/additions to the above information, send me email and I
will include it in a future posting.
--
Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc.,
uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160
Sterling, VA 22170 raymond@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) (10/27/90)
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >[...] here is a compilation >of the information regarding availability of System V R4.0 for *86 based >systems: [...] >Currently all vendors have included the following packages in their release: > > Operating System (2-user) > Software Development System > NFS, RFS > TCP/IP > X11R3 > Openlook > So what happened to VP/ix? As far as I know, it's not yet available. I'm quite surprised nobody mentioned it, though obviously, with the number of questions about it in this group in mind, many people use it. I was told that the old (Simultask 2.0) version would not run under sVr4, and the fact that Interactive apparantly is way behind concerning r4, I wonder when (or if?) a new version will be available. By the way, Conor's remark that SCO does not intend to work on r4 does not make me feel very comfortable when I think about support for hardware not beloning to THE de facto standards, like the variety of VGA cards. -Raymond
dewey@dell.dell.com (Dewey Coffman) (10/27/90)
In article <57@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl> raymond@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes: > >So what happened to VP/ix? As far as I know, it's not yet available. I'm >quite surprised nobody mentioned it, though obviously, with the number of >questions about it in this group in mind, many people use it. > Dell is including DOS Merge from Locus Computing in their release of System V.4. With this comes the "xcrt" utility which allows a CGA DOS window under X. Stop by the UNIX International Booth at UNIX Expo for a demo. Dewey Coffman Dell Computer Corp Austin, TX dewey@dell.com, info@dell.com -- Dewey Coffman Dell Computer Corp.
mlm@cbnewsh.att.com (Mark L. Milliman) (10/28/90)
> > So what happened to VP/ix? As far as I know, it's not yet available. I'm > quite surprised nobody mentioned it, though obviously, with the number of > questions about it in this group in mind, many people use it. > I just purchased Simul-Task (a.k.a. VP/ix) Version 3.0 from AT&T last week. Initially I was told I would have to wait a couple of months, but it just showed up on my door this week in 3.5" disks. While I have not yet installed it (I really needed 5.25" disks) the manual says that it will run under SVR3.2 and SVR4.0. The documentation appears somewhat better than previous versions with a fair amount devoted to configure it under X-Windows. Mark -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark L. Milliman ATTMail: attmail!attbl!hotsi!mlm
ken@metaware.metaware.com (ken) (10/28/90)
In article <1990Oct27.141126.29224@dell.dell.com> dewey@dell.dell.com (Dewey Coffman) writes: >In article <57@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl> raymond@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes: >> >>So what happened to VP/ix? As far as I know, it's not yet available. I'm >>quite surprised nobody mentioned it, though obviously, with the number of >>questions about it in this group in mind, many people use it. >> > > Dell is including DOS Merge from Locus Computing in their release > of System V.4. With this comes the "xcrt" utility which allows > a CGA DOS window under X. Stop by the UNIX International Booth > at UNIX Expo for a demo. > No one has mentioned Tyan Computers in Sunnyvale. They are selling a VR4 (pacaked with their 486 box) and will be or are shipping Merge. I have now used their VR4, Intel's, and NCR's and Tyan's is by far the most stable and complete of the three. Try calling Terry at (408) 720-1200 Ken
larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) (10/28/90)
dewey@dell.dell.com (Dewey Coffman) writes: > Dell is including DOS Merge from Locus Computing in their release > of System V.4. With this comes the "xcrt" utility which allows > a CGA DOS window under X. Stop by the UNIX International Booth > at UNIX Expo for a demo. I have heard that Dell is using Interactive's product for release 3.2, who's product will they (you) be using for release 4.0? Will Dell be selling and supporting a 3.2 and 4.0 release or will the 4.0 release replace the 3.2? -- Larry Snyder, Northern Star Communications, Notre Dame, IN USA {larry@nstar, uunet!sco!romed!nstar!larry, nstar%larry@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu} backbone usenet newsfeeds available Public Access Unix Site (219) 289-0282 (5 high speed lines)
larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) (10/28/90)
ken@metaware.metaware.com (ken) writes: >No one has mentioned Tyan Computers in Sunnyvale. They are selling a VR4 >(pacaked with their 486 box) and will be or are shipping Merge. I have now >used their VR4, Intel's, and NCR's and Tyan's is by far the most stable and >complete of the three. Is Tyan's product their own port - or are they getting it from someone else (Intel, Microport, ??)? -- Larry Snyder, Northern Star Communications, Notre Dame, IN USA {larry@nstar, uunet!sco!romed!nstar!larry, nstar%larry@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu} backbone usenet newsfeeds available Public Access Unix Site (219) 289-0282 (5 high speed lines)
smb3u@mendel.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steven M. Boker) (11/01/90)
In article <57@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl> raymond@gem.stack.urc.tue.nl (Raymond Nijssen) writes: > >So what happened to VP/ix? As far as I know, it's not yet available. I'm >quite surprised nobody mentioned it, though obviously, with the number of >questions about it in this group in mind, many people use it. I have been told by the relevant techies at ESIX that VP/ix will run under their version of SVr4 available sometime in January. They also mentioned that they will be releasing X11r4 at the same time and that VP/ix will run under X at that time. S'all I know. Steve.