uucigj@swuts.swbt.com (3531] Gregg W. Jensen) (10/01/90)
I saw some mention about running vpix in an xterm window running under X11R4 (the xvga server for ISC 2.0.2). Was there a resolution to the problem? I have a need to do this well and can't seem to get it to work. Is there something special that I need to do. I have set the terminal to vt100 and when I start up vpix it state it can't find two files, an init file and a scancode file (I don't remember the names right off hand). The header comes up but it won't take any keyboard input (hmm must be the scancode file :-) ). If there was a way to do this could that information be mailed to me? Thanks Gregg Jensen *** you can reply to this message but I would rather have you *** send it to one of the following: *** uucigj%gandalf.sbc.com@uunet.uu.net *** or *** uucigj@swbatl.sbc.com
ejm@coyote.uucp (E.J. McKernan) (10/16/90)
In article <468@swuts.swbt.com> uucigj@swuts.swbt.com (3531] Gregg W. Jensen) writes: >I saw some mention about running vpix in an xterm window running >under X11R4 (the xvga server for ISC 2.0.2). Was there a >resolution to the problem? I have a need to do this well and >can't seem to get it to work. Is there something special that >I need to do. I have set the terminal to vt100 and when I start >up vpix it state it can't find two files, an init file and a >scancode file (I don't remember the names right off hand). The >header comes up but it won't take any keyboard input (hmm must >be the scancode file :-) ). > I was the original poster of the question of vpix under Tom Roells X11R4 server. None of the replies answered the question, they all concerned running under X11R3 (Interactives) and their special "xterm" that handled vpix. Looks like no one has done this on Tom's server under X11r4. -- ------------------------------------------- /|_|\ Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ ( . . ) ejm@coyote.uucp \ / ejm%coyote@arizona.edu
larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) (10/16/90)
ejm@coyote.uucp (E.J. McKernan) writes: >I was the original poster of the question of vpix under Tom Roells X11R4 >server. None of the replies answered the question, they all concerned >running under X11R3 (Interactives) and their special "xterm" that handled >vpix. Looks like no one has done this on Tom's server under X11r4. I have Tom's sever here on nstar - but haven't installed it - does it support extended VGA modes - and I've heard the X11R4 is less of a memory hog - is that true? -- Larry Snyder, Northern Star Communications, Notre Dame, IN USA {larry@nstar, uunet!sco!romed!nstar!larry, nstar!larry@ndmath.math.nd.edu} backbone usenet newsfeeds available Public Access Unix Site (219) 289-0282 (5 high speed lines)
roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Thomas Roell) (10/22/90)
>vpix. Looks like no one has done this on Tom's server under X11r4. There is *now* support for running VPIX under xterm (X11R4). This will be available together with the new server. It will become available in the next few weeks. But don't ask me when exactly. There are some things to do. You'll here about it, when the time has come. >I have Tom's sever here on nstar - but haven't installed it - does it >support extended VGA modes - and I've heard the X11R4 is less of a memory >hog - is that true? What about a resolution of 1152x900 in 256 colors on a SuperVGA board ? Yes it's running !!!! - Thomas -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Mail: Thomas Roell (c/o Daniel Hernandez) Inst. f. Informatik / Technische Universitaet M"unchen Arcisstr. 21 / 8000 Munich 2 / Fed.Rep. of Germany E-Mail (domain): roell@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de UUCP (when above fails): roell@tumult.{uucp | informatik.tu-muenchen.de} -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) (10/26/90)
> >What about a resolution of 1152x900 in 256 colors on a SuperVGA board ? >Yes it's running !!!! > What brand of board are you using? 1152x900 sounds like a Sun. -- Richard Foulk richard@pegasus.com
james@bigtex.cactus.org (James Van Artsdalen) (10/29/90)
In <1990Oct26.153940.4742@pegasus.com>, richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) wrote: > >What about a resolution of 1152x900 in 256 colors on a SuperVGA board ? > >Yes it's running !!!! > What brand of board are you using? 1152x900 sounds like a Sun. News is quite slow to Tom Roell's site, so I'll answer: Tom is using an ET-4000 based VGA card with 1meg of RAM. I have a beta copy of his new server that does 1152x900 by 256 colors. It's quite fast. There was also support for PVGA1A and ET-3000, and I hope to add Paradise 90c11 support. The best way to do X on a SysV based machine is with a hardware accelerator such as the Dell GPX (a TMS-34010 based card). You have to have an X server that runs on your system and supports the desired hardware, and this costs $$$ (probably well over $2000 when GPX, monitor, and software are totalled). But if you're going to work in an X environment, it's essential to step up from VGA. The GPX works at 1024x768 256 color. For "hobby" work, or light X usage, Tom's port to the ET-4000 looks very good. The card out to be in the $300 range with RAM, and the software is free. If you go for 1152x900, you'll need a monitor as good as the GPX, but you could also use a 800x600 monitor (I use NEC 3D) which is lots cheaper. I have not seen this on a slow machine yet (less than 25MHz 486 - I have a warped perspective of "slow machine" :-), but in 800x600 256color mode the ET-4000 should work fine for most cases. The ET-4000 is very fast: slower video cards may not be so quick. Warning: it appears that ET-4000 cards may not be fully software compatible at high resolutions: the method of selecting the clocks appears to change from card to card. So Tom's X11r4 server may not work out of the box on all ET-4000s, but instead need minor changes. In addition to the GPX, Dell sells 33MHz 486s and 650meg hard disks for compiling the MIT X distribution with Tom's changes. :-) -- James R. Van Artsdalen james@bigtex.cactus.org "Live Free or Die" Dell Computer Co 9505 Arboretum Blvd Austin TX 78759 512-338-8789
roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Thomas Roell) (10/31/90)
>For "hobby" work, or light X usage, Tom's port to the ET-4000 looks very >good. The card out to be in the $300 range with RAM, and the software >is free. If you go for 1152x900, you'll need a monitor as good as the >GPX, but you could also use a 800x600 monitor (I use NEC 3D) which is >lots cheaper. I have not seen this on a slow machine yet (less than >25MHz 486 - I have a warped perspective of "slow machine" :-), but in >800x600 256color mode the ET-4000 should work fine for most cases. The >ET-4000 is very fast: slower video cards may not be so quick. Well, let's look at some numbers. There is a good X11 performance test, which is very popular here in germay. It's called xbench. The final result of it is call xstones. This higher that number is the faster X11 is. SparcStation 1, cg2 color-framebuffer, 1152x900, 256 colors: 3424 386, 33MHz, No 387, 8Megs, ET4000 board ($250) 1024x768x256: 5960 Any comments ? - Thomas -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Mail: Thomas Roell (c/o Daniel Hernandez) Inst. f. Informatik / Technische Universitaet M"unchen Arcisstr. 21 / 8000 Munich 2 / Fed.Rep. of Germany E-Mail (domain): roell@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de UUCP (when above fails): roell@tumult.{uucp | informatik.tu-muenchen.de} -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tpf@jdyx.UUCP (Tom Friedel) (11/06/90)
roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Thomas Roell) writes: >Well, let's look at some numbers. There is a good X11 performance test, which >is very popular here in germay. It's called xbench. The final result of it is >call xstones. This higher that number is the faster X11 is. >SparcStation 1, cg2 color-framebuffer, 1152x900, 256 colors: 3424 >386, 33MHz, No 387, 8Megs, ET4000 board ($250) 1024x768x256: 5960 >Any comments ? There does seem to be a myth that PC's can not provide performance in the X11 department. 386, 25MHz, No 387, 8Megs, Paradise 8514 ($650) 1024x768x256: 12,457 The 8514, which no one is talking about these days, is a temendous X11 card. It did the line400 test at the same rate as the line10 test, and really racked up points in the fill solid and screen copy tests. I'll send out the xbench output file if anyone is interested. This is on ESIX Rev. D with AT&T sockets and Metrolink's X11R4 8514 server. tom friedel -- Tom Friedel JDyx Enterprises (404) 320-7624 tpf@jdyx.UUCP Unix BBS: (404) 325-1719 <= 2400 ; (404) 321-5020 >= 2400 "Live simply, so that others may simply live."