styer@ms.uky.edu (Eugene Styer) (11/13/90)
Thanks for a very timely posting (three guesses as to what I am in the process of doing, and the first two don't count :-). ) I called Microport, and they are sending me a packet in the mail. I also called UHC, and got the following information: Base system & nroff: $895 X11 $795 Networking, NFS, etc: $695 Developement System: $995 Complete System (until end of the year) $1995 If I have any interesting new information on Microport when it comes in, I will post later. Eugene Styer - 402 Wallace, EKU, Richmond, KY 40475 styer@eku.bitnet "A complex number consists of two parts, a real part and an imaginary part, where the imaginary part is as real as the real part if you can imagine that." -- Eugene Styer - 402 Wallace, EKU, Richmond, KY 40475 styer@eku.bitnet "A complex number consists of two parts, a real part and an imaginary part, where the imaginary part is as real as the real part if you can imagine that."
larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) (11/13/90)
styer@ms.uky.edu (Eugene Styer) writes: >Thanks for a very timely posting (three guesses as to what I am in the process >of doing, and the first two don't count :-). ) >I called Microport, and they are sending me a packet in the mail. I also >called UHC, and got the following information: >Base system & nroff: $895 >X11 $795 >Networking, NFS, etc: $695 >Developement System: $995 >Complete System (until end of the year) $1995 >If I have any interesting new information on Microport when it comes in, I >will post later. Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection which includes everything listed above (I'm not sure on text processing - but I believe it also is included). -- Larry Snyder, Northern Star Communications, Notre Dame, IN USA {larry@nstar, {uunet|backbone}!nstar!larry, larry%nstar@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu} backbone usenet newsfeeds available Public Access Unix Site (219) 289-0282 (5 high speed lines)
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (11/14/90)
In article <1990Nov13.120547.22443@nstar.uucp> larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) writes: | Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection which | includes everything listed above (I'm not sure on text processing - but | I believe it also is included). The prices quoted for Dell V.4 in _UNIX Today_ were $1100 2 users, $1300 multiuser. I may be wrong on the first, it might be $1k even, I've seen both prices. I'm very impressed with Dell, the list of problems and limitations is gratifyingly short, and I have found myself amazed at what works, and how much extra stuff has been added. This looks like a dump of some hacker's personal system, with lots of GNU stuff, pbmplus, etc. Not that any of the V.4 systems I've tried have been perfect, but I am finding few cases of the system "falling dead" when there are problems. No kernel dumps, although there is a lot of stuff which violates the "rule of least amazement." -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) (11/14/90)
In article <1990Nov13.120547.22443@nstar.uucp>, larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) writes: > styer@ms.uky.edu (Eugene Styer) writes: > >>Thanks for a very timely posting (three guesses as to what I am in the process > >of doing, and the first two don't count :-). ) > >I called Microport, and they are sending me a packet in the mail. I also > >called UHC, and got the following information: > >Base system & nroff: $895 > >X11 $795 > >Networking, NFS, etc: $695 > >Developement System: $995 > >Complete System (until end of the year) $1995 > >If I have any interesting new information on Microport when it comes in, I > >will post later. > > Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection which > includes everything listed above (I'm not sure on text processing - but > I believe it also is included). ESIX: Everything in above, except (?) nroff: $825 I've installed the system for a client, and in my opinion, it is very good. ESIX's best feature is that it is WELL SUPPORTED! Phone support (you pay for the call and get your money's worth) and also by UUCP email. Jay Ts, Director Metran Technology Tampa FL uunet!pdn!tscs!metran!jay o
bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) (11/14/90)
>styer@ms.uky.edu (Eugene Styer) writes: [ UHC prices for Vr4 ... ] >>Complete System (until end of the year) $1995 larry@nstar.uucp (Larry Snyder) follows up: >Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection which >includes everything listed above (I'm not sure on text processing - but >I believe it also is included). The Programmer's Connection catalog is silent about text processing, but the Interactive Text Processing Workbench, same catalog page is listed for $315, unlimited users. There's a fascinating footnote on each of the Interactive listings: "Not available to customers in Africa, Algeria, Brazil, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, and U.A.E." I guess it's obvious why it caught my eye, but a quick scan didn't show similar stuff regarding other vendors' products, I wonder what is unique about Interactive. -- Bill Kennedy usenet {att,cs.utexas.edu,pyramid!daver}!ssbn.wlk.com!bill internet bill@ssbn.WLK.COM or attmail!ssbn!bill
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (11/16/90)
In article <323@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes: >ESIX: Everything in above, except (?) nroff: $825 > >I've installed the system for a client, and in my opinion, it is very good However, you should have looked at the products that were being discussed. The products were system VR4, not SVR3.2 (which esix is). ESIX is planning on a SVR4 release but I don't think you will see it until 1or2Q92. -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170
jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) (11/17/90)
In article <1990Nov15.174732.22654@virtech.uucp>, cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: > In article <323@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes: > >ESIX: Everything in above, except (?) nroff: $825 > > > >I've installed the system for a client, and in my opinion, it is very good > > However, you should have looked at the products that were being discussed. > The products were system VR4, not SVR3.2 (which esix is). Here I am having to apologize again. Unfortunately, I have been having to work until 5-6am far too much lately! This happened because, as you can see, System Vr4 is not mentioned in the Subject: line! Look! See? Now, to defend myself a bit, why do you people want Sys Vr4, anyway? I'm definitely waiting maybe 6 mos. or so until a few of the bugs are worked out. (Maybe ESIX will release a product around then...) Of course, if y'all want to test it for me, I guess I shouldn't complain :-) Jay Ts uunet!pdn!tscs!metran!jay
cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) (11/18/90)
In article <330@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes: > >Now, to defend myself a bit, why do you people want Sys Vr4, anyway? I'm Most people want SVR4 today for one of the following reasons: 1. to always have the latest and greatest OS 2. to develop/test application software for the product 3. to get major portions of the BSD look and feel I'd bet that many of the people that read/contribute to this group have been working with 386 unix products for at least 2 or 3 years (back in the days of SVR3.0). They were pioneers then, they will be pioneers yet again. >definitely waiting maybe 6 mos. or so until a few of the bugs are worked >out. If you are talking about a production system, I would agree. In fact, we went out an bought an extra machine to load/test/play with SVR4. -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170
perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) (11/18/90)
In article <330@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes: >Now, to defend myself a bit, why do you people want Sys Vr4, anyway? I'm >definitely waiting maybe 6 mos. or so until a few of the bugs are worked >out. (Maybe ESIX will release a product around then...) Well, easy : Job control. SunOS file system architecture Better integrated networking Long filenames More berkeley features (= more PD programs too ) Probably a lot more.... If you had used a BSD/SunOS machine you would know, I think. Per -- Per Andersson (perand@admin.kth.se, perand@stacken.kth.se) Trying a new job at Bofors Electronics, still reading news at the Royal Institute of Technology Time, got the time tick tick tickin' in my head - Joe Jackson
evil@arcturus.uucp (Wade Guthrie) (11/21/90)
Various people write: > Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection > ESIX: Everything in above, except (?) nroff: $825 One thing I ought to note concerning my list -- I'm trying to keep the prices at that for which the companies themselves sell the software -- street prices may vary (they usually do). Keeping up with street prices can be tough given the various resellers. -- Wade Guthrie (evil@arcturus.UUCP) | "The likelihood of one individual being ...uunet!ccicpg!felix!arcturus!evil | right increases with direct proportion to Rockwell International; Anaheim, CA | the intensity with which others are trying My opinions, not my employer's. | to prove him wrong", Mr. Jordan
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (11/28/90)
In article <1990Nov20.203102.24338@arcturus.uucp> evil@arcturus.uucp (Wade Guthrie) writes: | Various people write: | > Don't forget Intel release 4.0 - $1395 from the programmers connection | > ESIX: Everything in above, except (?) nroff: $825 | | One thing I ought to note concerning my list -- I'm trying to keep the | prices at that for which the companies themselves sell the software -- | street prices may vary (they usually do). Keeping up with street prices | can be tough given the various resellers. If I didn't mention it, Dell V.4 comes with nroff and troff (ditroff), macro packages man, mm, and ms, and xtroff to view the output on the screen. I haven't found the otroff (CAT troff) yet, but there's some kind of a cat option I haven't explored yet. I think it wants a table I haven't loaded, or something. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me