rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) (12/15/90)
:From: rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) :I would appreciate any comments on use of the Intel i860 processor. :What systems or cards were used? What OS? UNIX? :What compilers? Advice and suggestions? Attached are responses to the above posting. At the high end are the Alliant systems. At the low end, various addon boards for the ISA bus. Not mentioned below are: an i860 addon card and software from: DSM Digital Service GmbH tel: (49) 89-55195-0 Munich tel: (408) 946-0655 Milpitas the Okidata 7300 workstation, which runs UNIX SysVR4 on an i860. Thanks, John Rupley uucp: ..{uunet | ucbvax | cmcl2 | noao}!arizona!rupley!local internet: rupley!local@cs.arizona.edu (H) 30 Calle Belleza, Tucson AZ 85716 - (602) 325-4533 (O) Dept. Biochemistry, Univ. Arizona, Tucson AZ 85721 - (602) 621-3929 ***************************RESPONSES********************************** >From brandis@inf.ethz.ch Mon Dec 10 01:35:15 1990 NeXT uses the i860 on their high-performance graphics board for the new line of workstations. Alliant has a new series of parallel computers based on the i860. They run a dialect of UNIX. Intel has the iPSC 860, an i860 hypercube. I do not know about the environment. There are a lot of i860 add-on boards for the PC. They have to be programmed directly from the PC, generally through a small amount of shared memory and a control port. The Olivetti 486 motherboards have a socket for the i860. Now programmer inter- face for it up to now, but some graphics applications. There are also some american PC motherboards that contain both a 486 and an 860 (I think Hauppage has one). Marc-Michael Brandis Computer Systems Laboratory, ETH-Zentrum (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology) CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland email: brandis@inf.ethz.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From crouse@eng.umd.edu Mon Dec 10 15:46:57 1990 Could you send (or post) a summary or any information you receive to me? The i860 looks very interesting but I've only seen one application thus far. Microway sells a coprocessor board that plugs into PCs. They also have several compilers for DOS and for UNIX. You can find their adds in any issue of PC Magazine. The board is in the $7-9000.00 range as I recall, and that includes one compiler. Gil Crouse Dept. of Aerospace Engineering University of Maryland crouse@eng.umd.edu (301) 405-1140 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From bobeson@saturn.ucsc.edu Mon Dec 10 21:03:37 1990 My group is working on a shared memory i860 multiprocessor. I like the chip. I have used it in the form of a Wizard card, and the Star860 development system. The chip is fast, alright, but of course nowhere near as fast as Intel claims. I am about to start working on a port of OSF/1 to the i860, in conjunction with Intel. If you are still interested, drop me a note in a couple of months, and I will be able to fill your mailbox with i860 OS info aplenty. Bob Ellefson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From neray@alliant.com Thu Dec 13 08:28:39 1990 The Alliant FX/2800 is a shared memory supercomputer based on the Intel i860. The system supports up to 28 i860 processors (@40MHz), and 1 GB of main memory. Processors can be used for multiprocessing (one processor per process or thread) and parallel processing (up to 14 processors are grouped together in a cluster, dedicated to a single process. This is supported by paallelizing Fortran and C compilers, and hardware-based concurrency control.) We have developed our own compilers based on the parallel and vector technology of our first-generation systems, which were based on a proprietary parallel vector processor. The compilers support the advanced instruction-level parallelism features of the i860 such as dual instruction mode and pipelining. These compilers have been licensed to Intel for eventual distribution on other i860-based platforms. The operating system (called Concentrix) is based on BSD4.3 with extensions for symmetric multiprocessing, disk striping, high-performance virtual memory, and other supercomputer-like features. Concentrix supports X11, NFS, NQS, DECnet, UltraNet and Hyperchannel. A high-performance integrated X11 frame buffer is available as an option. Current performance results include: VAX MIPS (Dhrystone V1.1): 41 VAX MIPS per processor (72,815 Dhrys/sec) DP Whetstone (inlined): 54 MWhetstones per processor Linpack 100 (all FORTRAN): - Single processor: 6.1 MFLOPS - Entry-Level System (4-processor cluste): 15.1 MFLOPS - High-End System (14-procesor cluster): 25.7 MFLOPS Linpack 1000: - Single processor: 27 MFLOPS - Entry-Level System (4-pressor cluster): 86 MFLOPS - High-End System (14-processor cluster): 296 MFLOPS SPECmark: - Single processor: 20.6 - Entry-Level System (SPECthruput, 8 processors) 84.8 - High-End System (SPECthruput, 28 processors) 263.6 All figures are measured, actual results. Entry-level systems start at $525K, including 8 processors, 64MB memory, and 1.6GB (formatted) disk. -- Phil Neray Domain: neray@alliant.com Alliant Computer Systems UUCP: {mit-eddie|linus}!alliant!neray Littleton, MA 01460 Phone: (508) 486-1429 >From neray@alliant.com Thu Dec 13 08:17:16 1990 Please add the following to my previous mail concerning the FX/2800: We have also recently measured performance of 2.145 GFLOPS on an FX/2828 for convolution. This compares to 2.012 GFLOPS for an eight-processor Cray Y/MP ( (50,000 by 500 32-bit convolution). The eight-processor FX/2808 also beats the the eight-processor Y/MP - for example, a 2000 by 500 convolution performs at 575 MFLOPS on the FX/2808 versus 546 MFLOPS for the Y/MP. Thank you, Phil Neray
nzhang@ee.su.oz.au (Ning Zhang) (12/18/90)
In article <28701@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) writes: >:From: rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) >:I would appreciate any comments on use of the Intel i860 processor. >:What systems or cards were used? What OS? UNIX? >:What compilers? Advice and suggestions? When I was in Germany, I had tried to port my Radiosity/Raytracing/Zbuffer package to some add-on i860 cards for PCs. 1. DSM i860 Card (Munich, Germany): Only on UNIX V platform, using MetaWare C860 compiler. 2. MicroWay 860 Card (MA, USA): Designed and Manufactured in England. With transparent interface between I860 CPU and host 386 chip. But only supports MicroWay compilers. 3. Datapath Merlin 860 Card (Nottingham, UK): With graphics copressor and vedio ram. Very limitted software support (you have to build your own interface, I/O handling and memory management). Supports any COFF files generated by MetaWare C386, GreenHill C386, etc. The performace of the cards are the same. The difference is the software development environment. I finally chose Datapath's Merlin card as it can also be used as a very fast graphics accelerator, though I had spent a lot time to build my own transparent interface like MicroWay's. -Ning
sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) (12/20/90)
In article <1990Dec18.151138.12055@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> nzhang@ee.su.oz.au (Ning Zhang) writes: >In article <28701@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) writes: >>:From: rupley@cs.arizona.edu (John Rupley) >>:I would appreciate any comments on use of the Intel i860 processor. >>:What systems or cards were used? What OS? UNIX? >>:What compilers? Advice and suggestions? > >When I was in Germany, I had tried to port my Radiosity/Raytracing/Zbuffer >package to some add-on i860 cards for PCs. > >1. DSM i860 Card (Munich, Germany): Only on UNIX V platform, using MetaWare > C860 compiler. >2. MicroWay 860 Card (MA, USA): Designed and Manufactured in England. With > transparent interface between I860 CPU and host 386 chip. But only supports > MicroWay compilers. >3. Datapath Merlin 860 Card (Nottingham, UK): With graphics copressor and > vedio ram. Very limitted software support (you have to build your own > interface, I/O handling and memory management). Supports any COFF files > generated by MetaWare C386, GreenHill C386, etc. > The latest issue of PC Mag has an ad for a Hauppauge 486 motherboard that comines a 486 processor with an i860. Limited offer for processor plus i860/apx executive when ordered with 16MB board. Jeff Sicherman