fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (fritz zaucker) (01/08/91)
Hi ISC-X11 users, obviously several (a lot) of people would like to use Thomas Roell's X11R4 server on a VGA board with a PVGA1A chip set (like the Paradise Professional for example). As Thomas mentioned he doesn't have access to such a board, so he can not really test his code. Up to now all his attempts to fix the server failed (I just tried the last beta test version). I proposed to Thomas to ask the net-land, if some people would be willing to contribute some money, so he could buy a such a board. He said, that with that "it shouldn't be a problem any more". As I am living in the US right now, but still have a bank account in Germany, I could collect money here and transfer it to Thomas easily. So, how does that sound to you? Are you willing to trust me and send me some checks? I just looked into a catalog, the VGA Professional from Paradise lists for $304. I guess in Germany it should be available for about 500 DM??? So, 20 people each contributing $20 or so would do it. Or, what about a dealer or UNIX vendor sending a board to Thomas? Send me a mail, if and how much you would like to contribute. I think, a working X11R4 server would be worth 20 bucks, wouldn't it? Fritz P.S.: I'll be gone for a week until January, 15. I'll post, what response I got up to then. Fritz Zaucker Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University, New York Palisades, NY 10964 (914) 359-2900 x 703 E-MAIL: fritzz%lamont@columbia.edu or fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
tmh@bigfoot.FOKUS.GMD.DBP.DE (Thomas Hoberg) (01/18/91)
In article <3067@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>, fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (fritz zaucker) writes: |> |> Hi ISC-X11 users, |> |> obviously several (a lot) of people would like to use Thomas Roell's |> X11R4 server on a VGA board with a PVGA1A chip set (like the Paradise |> Professional for example). |> |> As Thomas mentioned he doesn't have access to such a board, so he can |> not really test his code. Up to now all his attempts to fix the server |> failed (I just tried the last beta test version). |> |> I proposed to Thomas to ask the net-land, if some people would be |> willing to contribute some money, so he could buy a such a board. He |> said, that with that "it shouldn't be a problem any more". |> |> As I am living in the US right now, but still have a bank account in |> Germany, I could collect money here and transfer it to Thomas easily. |> |> So, how does that sound to you? Are you willing to trust me and send |> me some checks? I just looked into a catalog, the VGA Professional |> from Paradise lists for $304. I guess in Germany it should be |> available for about 500 DM??? |> |> So, 20 people each contributing $20 or so would do it. Or, what about |> a dealer or UNIX vendor sending a board to Thomas? |> |> Send me a mail, if and how much you would like to contribute. I think, |> a working X11R4 server would be worth 20 bucks, wouldn't it? |> |> Fritz |> Thomas probably won't object to donations. But with an 1MB ET4000 VGA card selling at 250-280 DM right now, may be it's time to trash that absolete Paradize board. I'am trying to get some people here to donate him a TMS 340[12]0 card instead. Maybe you guys can donate an 8514 or XGA? Keep the buck rolling, he deserves it. :-> tom ---- Thomas M. Hoberg | UUCP: tmh@bigfoot.first.gmd.de or tmh%gmdtub@tub.UUCP c/o GMD Berlin | ...!unido!tub!gmdtub!tmh (Europe) or D-1000 Berlin 12 | ...!unido!tub!tmh Hardenbergplatz 2 | ...!pyramid!tub!tmh (World) Germany | BITNET: tmh%DB0TUI6.BITNET@DB0TUI11 or +49-30-254 99 160 | tmh@tub.BITNET
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (01/23/91)
In article <272@bigfoot.first.gmd.de> tmh@bigfoot.FOKUS.GMD.DBP.DE (Thomas Hoberg) writes: | Thomas probably won't object to donations. But with an 1MB ET4000 VGA card | selling at 250-280 DM right now, may be it's time to trash that absolete | Paradize board. I think that the ET4000 should be first priority, since the price is just coming down the the range of working people ($200-300). -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
david@twg.com (David S. Herron) (01/24/91)
In article <6719@tuminfo1.lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de> roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Thomas Roell) writes: >TMS 340[12]0 / 8514: > >Yeah that would be the right thing !!! I assume that prices for a 8514 will >drop below $300 within ONE YEAR. Therefor I strongly like to support the 8514. >I have contact to a person who tries to get me a 8514 as inexpensive as >possible. A $500 price would be payable for me. er.. I (a couple days ago) saw an 8514 server on (I think) expo.lcs.mit.edu. The README claimed that IBM was making this server publicly available out of the goodness of their hearts. Does this save you any time?? ;-) (Note: I think it wasn't for SysV since AIX was mentioned ...) -- <- David Herron, an MMDF & WIN/MHS guy, <david@twg.com> <- Formerly: David Herron -- NonResident E-Mail Hack <david@ms.uky.edu> <- <- MS-DOS ... The ultimate computer virus.
richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) (01/24/91)
>| Thomas probably won't object to donations. But with an 1MB ET4000 VGA card >| selling at 250-280 DM right now, may be it's time to trash that absolete >| Paradize board. > > I think that the ET4000 should be first priority, since the price is >just coming down the the range of working people ($200-300). So which is the best ET4000 card? (And what's a good price on an 8514 card for comparison?) And where do we send our donations? -- Richard Foulk richard@pegasus.com
tmh@bigfoot.FOKUS.GMD.DBP.DE (Thomas Hoberg) (02/05/91)
In article <1991Jan24.020518.1361@pegasus.com>, richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) writes: |> >| Thomas probably won't object to donations. But with an 1MB ET4000 VGA card |> >| selling at 250-280 DM right now, may be it's time to trash that absolete |> >| Paradize board. |> > |> > I think that the ET4000 should be first priority, since the price is |> >just coming down the the range of working people ($200-300). |> |> So which is the best ET4000 card? (And what's a good price on an 8514 card |> for comparison?) |> |> And where do we send our donations? |> |> |> |> -- |> Richard Foulk richard@pegasus.com Really, what's 'the best' anyway? Most ET4000 cards are really very similar. All should have 1MB of RAM (make sure they are 80ns), an ET4000 chip, some glue, and a couple of crystals. Brand name vendors try to distinguish them- selves by providing clock synthesizers and fancy drivers for DOS software. A Sigma Legend is a good board and it will give you lot's of crystals to play with (the configuration stuff in Tom's server is really great), but if 1024x768 is all you wan't, it doesn't really offer any advantages over some no-name clone card which costs 20% of what you'd have to hand over for a Sigma. It should certainly have a 65MHz crystal, if it goes higher, chances are your monitor can't cut it. At 80MHz you might be able to do the 1152x900 non- interlaced. I really liked the 44MHz crystal on my Taiwan clone (intended for 1024x768 interlaced), cause I can do 800x600 at higher refresh rates. Likewise I don't really do 1024x768 with the 65MHz crystal, but 960x720 at 70Hz frame rate. ---- Thomas M. Hoberg | UUCP: tmh@bigfoot.first.gmd.de or tmh%gmdtub@tub.UUCP c/o GMD Berlin | ...!unido!tub!gmdtub!tmh (Europe) or D-1000 Berlin 12 | ...!unido!tub!tmh Hardenbergplatz 2 | ...!pyramid!tub!tmh (World) Germany | BITNET: tmh%DB0TUI6.BITNET@DB0TUI11 or +49-30-254 99 160 | tmh@tub.BITNET