[net.ham-radio] White House radios prevent eavesdrop

wn9nbt@ecn-ee.UUCP (08/22/84)

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ecn-ee!wn9nbt    Aug 21 13:33:00 1984



Anyone know the coding method they use ?   I hope not the old
balanced modulator scheme that a lot of police departments use.

I've never listened to them, I'm just curious how they work...

.....Dave Chasey -- pur-ee!wn9nbt

lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (08/22/84)

Most of the new systems feed digitized audio through DES chips,
and thus are "relatively" secure.  How secure in REALITY depends
on how far you trust DES.

--Lauren--

jhs@Mitre-Bedford@sri-unix.UUCP (08/23/84)

The White House voice privacy radios are probably from Motorola.  If so, they
use 12 Kbps "CVSD" or Continuously Variable Slope Delta Modulation, with a
DES-based encryption algorithm which Motorola has implemented in custom CMOS
for this purpose.  Or it may be a Motorola proprietary algorithm, as they have
done some in-house work on other approaches to commercial encryption.
In any case, it is NOT just a frequency inverter.

					73,
					de W3IKG

piety@hplabs.UUCP (Bob Piety) (08/24/84)

Spread Spectrum communications could be used.  Even if one were close enough
to the transmitter to detect RF, it would just sound like static on an
ordinary receiver.  Most of the time, the signal would be substantially
below the noise-- again, static received.

--Spread Spectrum on 2M--

Bob  (KG6HV)

parnass@ihuxf.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (08/29/84)

It's not spread spectrum. It's Motorola's Digital Voice
Privacy (DVP), with the DES option no doubt.

You can read about it in a DVP Mitrek manual, available for a buck or
so at your local hamfest.

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