[net.ham-radio] FM Optional Add-Ons for HF Receivers

wmartin@brl-tgr.UUCP (08/30/84)

Many HF receivers, such as the Icom R-70 and R-71, have an extra-cost option
of an FM detector mode. This is intended, I believe, for use in receiving
narrow-band FM used in certain ham bands. I am under the impression that
those bands are all above 20 MHz. Does anyone know if these FM options are
so contructed so as to only operate in this higher portion of the HF
spectrum? Or will they function no matter what frequency the receiver is
tuned to?

I ask this because older tube receivers, such as my old Hallicrafters
SX-42, which cover from medium wave up to 108 MHz, have FM modes which
only function in the higher bandswitch position(s), not at all
frequencies. I discovered this when trying to use this receiver toto
tune cordless phones using FM in the 1600-1800 kHz range. (I know I
can tune in AM using slope detection; I just wanted to use the for-real
FM mode if I could.) Since these new-style receivers have no "bandswitch"
as such (but maybe a MHz-selection mechanism), it would seem that the
FM option could be turned on independent of the tuned frequency. I
would appreciate confirmation of this supposition.

Regards, Will Martin

seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin     or     wmartin@almsa-1

parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (09/02/84)

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  > Many HF receivers, such as the Icom	R-70 and R-71, have an extra-cost option
  > of an FM detector mode. This is intended, I	believe, for use in receiving
  > narrow-band	FM used	in certain ham bands. I	am under the impression	that
  > those bands	are all	above 20 MHz. Does anyone know if these	FM options are
  > so contructed so as	to only	operate	in this	higher portion of the HF
  > spectrum? Or will they function no matter what frequency the receiver is
  > tuned to?

       The FM detector option allows my	 R70  to  detect  NBFM
       signals	within	the 100	KHz - 30 MHz range.  I use the
       FM  detector  mainly  for  cordless  phone   listening,
       although	I used it initially for	monitoring 10 meter FM
       activity.  The FM detector would	be  useful  if	a  VHF
       converter were placed ahead of the R70.

       From reading the	R70  instruction  manual,  it  appears
       that this receiver can be connected to an optional ICOM
       VHF converter in	such a way as to  permit  direct  fre-
       quency readout using the	display	section	of the R70.  I
       haven't yet seen	any ICOM converters offered  for  sale
       in the US.  Maybe European netnews readers can add some
       insight here.

  > I ask this because older tube receivers, such as my	old Hallicrafters
  > SX-42, which cover from medium wave	up to 108 MHz, have FM modes which
  > only function in the higher	bandswitch position(s),	not at all
  > frequencies.

       Yes, the	1947 vintage SX-42 was a  hefty	 toy!	I  too
       wish  Hallicrafters  had	seen fit to permit all band FM
       reception.

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mikey@trsvax.UUCP (09/07/84)

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trsvax!mikey    Sep  7 09:31:00 1984



The cordless phones that I have experienced were FM only in the VHF
low band (49 Mhz).  The 1600-1800 link were all AM.  The new phones that
are advertised as all FM use new frequencies recently allocated at 49
Mhz to get FM both ways.  BTW, the phones that used 1600-1800 were 
carrier current AM for the base to handset and FM VHF for handset to
base.

Mike Yetsko KA5MJQ
mikey at trsvax