[comp.unix.sysv386] LAN Manager for SVR4

steve@lewis.OZ (Steve Pattinson) (06/18/91)

I'm looking at networking our Pyramid system and PC's together with
AT&T StarGROUP LAN Manager Server running on a 386 PC with SVR4 Unix.

This method would seem to give just about the best Unix - MS/DOS 
interworking that Iv'e heard about - Comments welcome.

Only problem is our AT&T distributor want's us to use AT&T SVR4.0 and
we already have Intel (soon to be Interactive) SRV4.0, which as far 
as I can see, should be just about identical - specific drivers excepted.

Can we  1 - Run AT&T's LAN manager on another brand of SVR4.0 ?
	    (I don't care if AT&T don't support it) 

	2 - Obtain LAN Manager for SVR4 Unix from other sources?

I'd like to say 'mail me and I'll summarise to the Net', but my international
mail access (incomming) is #*&%*&^$, so please don't!

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jbreeden@netcom.COM (John Breeden) (06/18/91)

In article <1225@lewis.OZ> steve@lewis.OZ (Steve Pattinson) writes:
>
>Can we  1 - Run AT&T's LAN manager on another brand of SVR4.0 ?
>	    (I don't care if AT&T don't support it) 

No. even if you could - why would you want to? You would get NO SUPPORT
from ANY vendor with such a "hybrid" system. You'd be setting yourself up
(not to mention the bad rap the vendors would have when problems CAN'T
be resolved on your "one-of-a-kind" system).

>
>	2 - Obtain LAN Manager for SVR4 Unix from other sources?
>

Yes, AT&T has licenced a few other companies, NCR (now an AT&T Company),
Bull and Olivetti in Europe and of course Pyramid. You need to use the 
ports of SYS5R4 from each of these vendors for there ports of SG/LMX.

AT&T's SG/LMX is now the "offical" LMX port (joint AT&T/Microsoft announce-
ment a few weeks ago). All current LMX vendors will be migrating to the
AT&T base code - including HP (the "other" LMX). This will result
in there being only one base LMX port - AT&T's.

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acj@cci632.cci.com (Al Jones) (06/19/91)

In article <1225@lewis.OZ> steve@lewis.OZ (Steve Pattinson) writes:
>
>I'm looking at networking our Pyramid system and PC's together with
>AT&T StarGROUP LAN Manager Server running on a 386 PC with SVR4 Unix.
>...
>Can we  1 - Run AT&T's LAN manager on another brand of SVR4.0 ?
>	    (I don't care if AT&T don't support it) 
I'm running StarGROUP 3.4 with Intel SVR4V2.  I'm expecting V3 from
Interactive this week.  StarGROUP LAN Manager seems to work just
fine.  Note: AT&T might be somewhat reluctant to supporting 3.4
on Intel/Interactive, but they still support it.
>
>	2 - Obtain LAN Manager for SVR4 Unix from other sources?
In the US, AT&T is encouraging most end users to purchase AT&T
products from AT&T Authorized resellers such as ERI, ARROW, etc.

Al Jones
acj@cci632

jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe R. Doupnik) (06/19/91)

In article <1225@lewis.OZ>, steve@lewis.OZ (Steve Pattinson) writes:
> 
> I'm looking at networking our Pyramid system and PC's together with
> AT&T StarGROUP LAN Manager Server running on a 386 PC with SVR4 Unix.
> 
> This method would seem to give just about the best Unix - MS/DOS 
> interworking that Iv'e heard about - Comments welcome.
> 
> Only problem is our AT&T distributor want's us to use AT&T SVR4.0 and
> we already have Intel (soon to be Interactive) SRV4.0, which as far 
> as I can see, should be just about identical - specific drivers excepted.
> 
> Can we  1 - Run AT&T's LAN manager on another brand of SVR4.0 ?
> 	    (I don't care if AT&T don't support it) 
> 
> 	2 - Obtain LAN Manager for SVR4 Unix from other sources?
> 
> I'd like to say 'mail me and I'll summarise to the Net', but my international
> mail access (incomming) is #*&%*&^$, so please don't!
> 
> _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
> Stephen Pattinson. | Computer Operations Manager  | Lewis Construction Company
> 15 Batman St., West Melbourne 3003., Victoria, Australia, Ph =>  +61 3 320 4700
> A division of the Concrete Constructions Group.   |    ACSnet => steve@lewis.oz  
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Stephen,
	While I'd like to say that Lan Man over (nearly) anyone's SVR4 should
work I would be very surprized if it did so. There are too many filenames and
subtle differences. The only sure way of finding out is to arrange for a
test.
	Joe D.
	(Running AT&T's Lan Man/X over their SVR4 with AT&T Ethernet boards,
the only ones supported).

pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) (06/20/91)

In article <1991Jun18.165757.5599@netcom.COM> jbreeden@netcom.COM (John Breeden) writes:
=In article <1225@lewis.OZ> steve@lewis.OZ (Steve Pattinson) writes:
=>
=>Can we  1 - Run AT&T's LAN manager on another brand of SVR4.0 ?
=>	    (I don't care if AT&T don't support it) 
=
=No. even if you could - why would you want to?

Because AT&T is so expensive!

=You would get NO SUPPORT
=from ANY vendor with such a "hybrid" system. You'd be setting yourself up
=(not to mention the bad rap the vendors would have when problems CAN'T
=be resolved on your "one-of-a-kind" system).

He won't get any support anyway unless he's running all that good
software on an AT&T computer!

=>	2 - Obtain LAN Manager for SVR4 Unix from other sources?
=>
=
=Yes, AT&T has licenced a few other companies, NCR (now an AT&T Company),
=Bull and Olivetti in Europe and of course Pyramid. You need to use the 
=ports of SYS5R4 from each of these vendors for there ports of SG/LMX.
=
=AT&T's SG/LMX is now the "offical" LMX port (joint AT&T/Microsoft announce-
=ment a few weeks ago). All current LMX vendors will be migrating to the
=AT&T base code - including HP (the "other" LMX). This will result
=in there being only one base LMX port - AT&T's.

Any timetable available?

Pete
-- 
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Voice: 609-586-4800          Engineering Technology, Computers and Math
FAX: 609-586-6944            1200 Old Trenton Road, Trenton, NJ 08690
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pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) (06/20/91)

In article <1991Jun18.130804.48134@cc.usu.edu> jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe R. Doupnik) writes:
=	While I'd like to say that Lan Man over (nearly) anyone's SVR4 should
=work I would be very surprized if it did so. There are too many filenames and
=subtle differences. The only sure way of finding out is to arrange for a
=test.
=	Joe D.
=	(Running AT&T's Lan Man/X over their SVR4 with AT&T Ethernet boards,
=the only ones supported).

On an AT&T computer???  Are you using the 10BASE-T boards?

Pete
-- 
Prof. Peter J. Holsberg      Mercer County Community College
Voice: 609-586-4800          Engineering Technology, Computers and Math
FAX: 609-586-6944            1200 Old Trenton Road, Trenton, NJ 08690
Internet: pjh@mccc.edu	     TCF 92 - April ??-??, 1992